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Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims, the Archbishop of Canterbury said yesterday. But it risked fresh controversy for the Archbishop in the wake of his pronouncement earlier this year that a place should be found for Islamic sharia law in the British legal system.

Dr Williams is also facing immense pressures from inside his own Church of England and Anglican Communion. BNP Chairman Nick Griffin along with Rod Gordon filmed this short news report today. Nick Griffin says it is time for all Christians to say enough is enough.

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40 comments for “Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims: Nick Griffin video response”

  1. CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE IS OFFENSIVE TO MUSLINS.

    SO WHAT!

    Posted by ianpenrhyndd | July 16, 2008, 7:23 pm
  2. This is great news, and well done on this most important fightback so quickly. I wrote earlier, about Reverend West responding, both he and Mr. Griffin should give a press release/conference on this insanity and treachery.

    Posted by BC1959 | July 16, 2008, 7:26 pm
  3. Well spoken Nick, -The stench of Common Purpose hangs in the air every time this bearded weirdo Williams opens his mouth. I reside near the wonderful city of Canterbury, and I must say that this current Archbishop of my home city is a misguided and dangerous fool. He should be sacked now.

    Posted by pete saxon | July 16, 2008, 7:38 pm
  4. There seems to be a technical flaw with your HTML here - on my PC, at least, the usual rectangle of a video doesn’t show, though the outline is there. On the other hand it downloads properly (I have the ‘realplayer’ downloader) so I’ve watched it; Nick compared the present day with Jenny Geddes’ protest, part of a riot. In 1637 there was a riot in St Giles’ opposing the imposition by the King in London of a new
    prayer book written by Archbishop Laud. Legend has it that the riot started when a local woman called Jenny Geddes threw her stool at the Dean giving the service, James Hannay, and cried “De’il colic the wame o’thee?” Some reputable historians believe that the Jenny Geddes story was a 19th century invention, though the disturbance certainly occurred. By the way, the Archbishop’s ‘palace’ is in the background.

    Posted by RW | July 16, 2008, 7:55 pm
  5. Here in the north we are over run with huge gangs of muslims on the streets causing trouble and fights for my children. Why should we include their sick idiots culture along with our own. We are treated like 2nd class citizens because of them.

    Posted by northernmonkey | July 16, 2008, 8:02 pm
  6. Well spoken Nick.The bearded wonder has spoken out of turn yet again. Some reports say that his words were taken out of context. Maybe so, but he is not reaching out to ordinary church-goers (not many of them nowadays) nor to any newcomers. We are supposed to ‘celebrate’ diversity? It looks like they want to make us all the same. I don’t attend church, along with millions more, due to idiots like him.

    Posted by whistle | July 16, 2008, 8:04 pm
  7. Well said, Mr Griffin. I especially liked the reference to Jenny Geddes. Any Christian, plus most who are not, can recognise this hangdog liberal as an apostate anti-Christian. For most of the last century there has been an increasing attack on Christianity in the west, led by those who promise “freedom”. But the result is quite the opposite as can be seen in Britain today. I do believe that unless our people return to the Bible, there is little if any hope. Attached is a preacher’s recent response to William’s view on Shari’a in Britain.

    http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=313081322542

    Posted by PJD | July 16, 2008, 8:05 pm
  8. As far as I am concerned it’s over anyway. The average CofE church is totally out of touch with the reality of the situation. I read in the Daily Post today that some priest in Wales is putting on a play where Jesus is depicted as a woman? The son of God was a woman? We have gay this and gay that, women this and women that: it’s descended into an orgy of depravity. And as for the bearded wonder, Christian or not, I could quite easily do without him.

    I am a BNP member, and I have had it up to my eyeballs with the whole situation. The one man who has my respect at this moment in time is His Grace the Archbishop of York, John Sentamu. I have absolutely no problems with him becoming the Archbishop of Canterbury, replacing the evil Satanist who presently occupies the position.

    Posted by Vman | July 16, 2008, 8:10 pm
  9. I no longer understand what is going on. It is an unnatural act to slit your own throat or sacrifice your own, but this is what everyone in authority seems to be doing these days. It just doesn’t make any sense to me. I am finding it increasingly difficulty to keep my anger under control.

    Posted by Phillip | July 16, 2008, 8:11 pm
  10. I find the cruelty and inhumanity of Islam very offensive. Is that what the Archbishop wants to see? Female genital mutilation? Brutal public killing and maiming? The subjugation of women? I could go on.

    He must be stark, raving mad.

    Posted by Legend | July 16, 2008, 8:12 pm
  11. That fellow Griffin talking sense again. The only thing missing is an organised protest of some kind. So come on Nick, what is the best and most effective way to make our voice heard?

    Posted by JIM GREEN | July 16, 2008, 8:29 pm
  12. On August 11, 1984, President Reagan was preparing to make his weekly address on National Radio. As a sound check prior to the address, Reagan made the following joke to the radio technicians:

    “My fellow Americans, I’m pleased to tell you today that I’ve signed legislation that will outlaw Russia forever. We begin bombing in five minutes.”

    Ed, is there any truth in the wicked but hilarious rumour circulating the web, that the BNPtv Sound Engineer was unhappy with the sound levels for this piece and used various versions of King Henry’s (ll) infamous request until he got it right?

    “Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?” - No good

    “Will no one rid me of this troublesome priest?” - Still no good

    “Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?” - Nope

    “Who will rid me of this turbulent priest?” - Better

    “Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?” - Better still

    “Will no one revenge me of the injuries I have sustained from one turbulent priest?” - That’s almost it!

    “Will none of the knaves eating my bread rid me of this turbulent priest?” - Perfect, once more!

    “What a band of loathsome vipers I have nursed in my bosom who will let their lord be insulted by this low-born cleric!” - Great! Stand by!

    “What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their Lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric?” - and Action!!

    Where’s the Chairman??

    There is nothing remotely funny about the Archdhimmi of Canterbury, unless of course he is being superbly lampooned by that great impersonator Rory Bremner:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1in5dDCGL1E

    -

    :-) Thanks, Winston :-) - Ed

    Posted by Winston | July 16, 2008, 8:54 pm
  13. Archbishop Rowan’s urge to cringe towards Islam contrasts strongly with Jesus’ plain speaking when it came to ‘False Prophets’. Did Jesus pull any punches when addressing the Pharisees (’Hypocrites,’ ‘Like Unmarked Graves’) or the Lawyers (’Woe to You’!)? Did he not make a whip and with it drove the moneychangers out of the Temple?

    Contrary to what Rowan seems to think, Christian love does not consist of unconditional creepiness towards lies and wickedness. Rowan should reflect that Jesus was far more robust than he is on present showing, and ask himself if he is not perhaps doing the wrong thing. One can agree that Christians should try to get on with Moslems on an individual basis, but not with Islam.

    Posted by Dolly Capax | July 16, 2008, 9:23 pm
  14. Thank you, Nick!

    Now I realise, once again, why I am a member of the BNP.

    The BNP is the ONLY party that sees clearly that our long history of democracy springs right out of Britain’s Christian tradition.

    Destroy those traditional Christian values, acquiesce to a religion that is the antithesis of Christianity, and you wipe out civilisation as we have known it.

    Posted by Shropshire Lass | July 16, 2008, 9:45 pm
  15. I’m afraid we are living in unique times. There is no real social activity or cohesion or common purpose in society ( not the CP we know! ). There is no real church attendance anymore. People are up to their necks with mortgages and free credit, which is partly there to keep people concerned about their own existence, let alone the existence of their neighbours or community.
    People live in family units of isolation unable to see or understand the world about them accept for the ‘media’ beaming at them from a corner of their living room. A good example of community isolation is St Georges day being driven into history, no street parties and bunting etc. People are being dummed down, isolated.
    I agree with party leaders that demonstrating on the streets is not the answer, this can be manipulated by the dark forces and make us look bad.
    Politicians are not there to listen and serve anymore, they are their to dictate, and it is accepted.
    Did anybody notice the ‘good news’ that petrol duty of 2p is to be postboned?.Good news!
    Our lives are so screwed down, that people are grateful for this stale crumb of good news, so they carry on in the same downwards spiral, till the next election…blue for red, red for blue,blue for…
    Real good news is for example that the economy has done so well, there will be no council rates this year, or the government is reducing the retirement age, or the tax rate is to be halved, or road tax is to be abolished, now that is proper GOOD NEWS. The fact is that this nation for decades has been conditioned to think no further than the end of it’s nose and be grateful for any half stale crust it is given ( not that I have received any in any budget overall )which is partly why we as a nation are in this godforsaken bloody mess.
    People will not wake up untill they are bankrupt.
    I just hope the BNP is popular enough to direct the inevitable strife and disorder that will surely happen soon, down the right channels, which has to be disciplined to prevent state violence against us. Voting for this party is the only answer. Anything else will lead to anarchy and chaos, which the rabid left will love.
    As for the Archenemy of Canterbury. For his contributions to Islam ‘the religion of fireworks’ may he enjoy the afterlife with Allah and all those murderers and rapists that reside on Allahs right hand side. They will love a Christian (sic)Bishop!.

    Posted by jao7 | July 16, 2008, 9:55 pm
  16. I forget the exact words but I think Jesus said, ” Beware of false prophets who will deceive you.” I can see how Muslims might find this offensive as the truth sometimes hurts. Incidentally, the riots in St. Giles triggered a chain of events which eventually led to the execution of King Charles l - an example of what can happen when rulers get too out of touch with the ruled.

    Posted by Graham | July 16, 2008, 10:01 pm
  17. The situation in this country reminds me of Arthur C Clarke’s Space Odyssey where the on board computer system goes nuts and sends the ship into chaos.
    I know it’s not funny in anyway, but this clip especially reminds me of the drastic action needed to regain control.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xOEJ-VuvLM&feature=related

    PS. sorry about the last comment, emotive subject.

    Posted by Vman | July 16, 2008, 10:16 pm
  18. Real religions must stop showing ‘respect’ to this wicked vicious cult. A real religion attempts to bring out the best in people: Islam does the opposite.

    How can anyone with any moral integrity indulge in ‘interfaith dialogue’ with a cult which claims as ‘the final messenger of God’ a person who was a genocidal murderer, mutilator, highway-robber, rapist, sadistic torturer and incestuous paedophile?

    Dr Rowan Williams and the rest of the dhimmis, ask yourselves this question:

    What sort of entity would channel his messages to mankind through such a person?

    Posted by Artorius | July 16, 2008, 10:17 pm
  19. Well here we have another Blair appointee, someone who is also talking in secret as to an almalgamation of the Anglican Church with the Roman Chatholic Church or should I say take over by the False Prophet in Rome. This man was put in place to destroy the Prodestant faith Destroy the Church of England which is not in keeping with the EUSSR Model is he English does he care as to the Anglican church? No hes Welsh, as our beloved leaders all originate from north of the border, when we dissapear from the map as the common purpose doctrine will have it you will see this man convert to the Roman Church as hisd Appointee has.

    Posted by georgeorwell | July 16, 2008, 10:17 pm
  20. Well said Mr Griffin…

    Posted by SimonGB | July 16, 2008, 10:19 pm
  21. We are fortunate in that this country has one politician with the guts to speak out! Well done Mr. Griffin!

    Posted by troubleatmill | July 16, 2008, 10:24 pm
  22. I have a cunning plan..
    Lets send Dr Williams to an islamic country, and when he gets there let him show them his Bible and a Cross.
    Let him tell them how Christianity has changed with the times, so much so that we are allowed a choice of religion, or none at all.

    Also lets remind him why the crusades happened in the first place !!.

    Posted by bertie bert | July 16, 2008, 10:41 pm
  23. By the way, the Archdhimmi has got company among the Great and the Good. The Dalai Lama said that “it’s totally wrong, unfair” to call Islam a violent religion. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381522,00.html

    This is despite the fact that the Muslims are plotting to assassinate him (peacefully and non-violently of course) http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,21493416-2703,00.html

    To give the Dalai Lama the benefit of the doubt, he gave this opinion when put on the spot by a question regarding religious violence. To have said anything else would have provoked an outbreak of peaceful and non-violent massacres of Buddhists in those countries where they live in utopian multi-culti community-cohesion with the pacifists. Presumably he is choosing between the lesser of the two evils by telling porkies (of the halal variety)

    I seem to remember Pope Benedict adopting a similar approach following the reaction to his Regensburg Address, when hints that Islam might be irrational and violent were followed by an eruption of rage and the non-violent rape of nuns and peaceful torturing and murder of priests and beheading of schoolgirls

    Sooner or later someone is going to have to grasp the nettle of Islam and squeeze it very, very hard. However our current religious leaders are to much hostages to threats of non-violence to be able to do this.

    Posted by Artorius | July 16, 2008, 10:42 pm
  24. Yes, Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims … and if this so called *man of the cloth* would only open his eyes, and do the job that Christ called him to, he would see the HORROR of how they treat Christians too!

    http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_9844318

    In 2005, a comprehensive peace agreement was signed between the Arab Muslim leaders in Khartoum and the Black Christians in southern Sudan. But what the agreement lacked were provisions to release the slaves taken captive over the past 20 years.

    There are reports of tens of thousands of men, women and children still enslaved in Darfur and Kordofan.

    Instead of appeasing Islam in Britain with inflamatory statements, I suggest the Archbishop would serve his Christian soul better by alerting British Christians to the HORRORS that Islam perpetrates around the world.

    Posted by MrsG | July 16, 2008, 10:45 pm
  25. Amen to that!
    Well said Nick

    Posted by moses the lawgiver | July 16, 2008, 10:46 pm
  26. The Time For Appeasement Of Islam Is Over
    by Vincent Gioia

    “To followers of Islam there is but one goal; replace all other religions and governments with Islam and Sharia law. In this there is no compromise, there are no rules, and everything is allowed to achieve success.

    We are the victims of our own tolerance and “political correctness.” Everywhere we are told that we should not offend anyone with words or deeds while Muslims are not limited by the same rules. Curiously, criticism and lampooning the Christian religion is not out of bounds in art or politics but Islam is to be protected by law and custom from such behavior.

    ….. We must also prepare propaganda that is directed towards the blue collar workers. None of the books written today are of any use for the working classes. Short audio MP3 files can be used for everybody.

    While we take no or only limited action, political Islam has every single element of their strategy in place at the global, national, state, and local level. Organizations like CAIR (Council on Islamic-American Relations) are active both as lobbyists and plaintiffs in legal actions all over the country where anyone resists providing special treatment for Muslims so that they may continue “to practice their religion” in public institutions like schools, airports, places of employment and everywhere else that does not grant similar concessions to others. ”

    http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_212158550.shtml

    Posted by Artorius | July 17, 2008, 2:40 pm
  27. As the other Ian says “offensive to Muslims - so what?”

    A lot of Muslims and their appeasers offend me but I don’t see people jumping up and down defending what I believe.

    If they don’t like what happens in a Christian country - simple - leave it.

    Posted by IanB1973 | July 17, 2008, 3:13 pm
  28. ED,any particular reason for my earlier blog being pulled?

    …..
    It wasn’t pulled - we are having a few technical difficulties and hope to resume normal service as soon as possible. -Ed

    Posted by lordhelpuz | July 17, 2008, 3:30 pm
  29. I find that having to share MY country with muslims very offensive! What can we do about it?

    Posted by THELMA H | July 17, 2008, 3:47 pm
  30. We were never asked if we wanted to share our country with anyone. Those who think they know better than we do, what’s good for us and have entree to to the monopoly of Power Elites have decided we were going to share our country, whether we wanted to or not.

    These deeply stupid people are in the process of wrecking this country and turning it into just another Continental Tyranny, multiracial and cultural this time.

    They would never have got away with it but for lies, deceit and gagging those who did oppose.

    Our so -called representatives are more interested in toeing the party line so that they can carry on lining their pockets and snuffling at the public trough to care about what they are doing to us.

    Posted by Pendlewitch | July 17, 2008, 4:30 pm
  31. Ah yes the old archbishop all that education and no common sense.
    I am not a doctor but it does seem a little odd that the archbishop is waving a torch for muslims in the UK.

    Posted by Bob_b | July 17, 2008, 4:43 pm
  32. During these dark days merit and patriotism is everywhere suppressed for traitors, dhimmis, quislings, knaves and fools are set above true men and women. General Dannatt told a few home truths to our rulers; he said that the army must retain its “Judeo-Christian tradition”. How they must have absolutely hated that! He has consquently been passed over for promotion to Chief of Defence Staff and it is reported that he will retire early next year. I hope he hangs on as long as possible for his departure would be a sad blow to the indigenous people.

    Graham( July 16, 2008, 10:01 pm) - “Incidentally, the riots in St. Giles triggered a chain of events which eventually led to the execution of King Charles l - an example of what can happen when rulers get too out of touch with the ruled.”

    Very true, one event in this chain occured in 1642 when Oliver Cromwell addressed the new recruits to his cavalry troop gathered around Huntingdon market cross . Many years later one of his old troopers, Thomas Tany, told of how Oliver had “promised to stand with us for the liberty of the Gospel and the law of the land”. We need that spirit now.

    Another event in the chain was the trial, on charges of High Treason, and subsequent execution of William Laud, Archbishop of Canterbury, on Tower Hill; January 10th 1645. And yet Laud’s offences pale into insignificance compared to those of Archdhimmi Williams. Williams has given aid and comfort and is therefore complicit in the alien colonisation of our country and the establishment of a state within a state. He is guilty of treason against the people of this country.

    Posted by Stringbag | July 17, 2008, 5:15 pm
  33. Last week we had that Beeboid “Bonekickers” bilious tripe depicting a fundamental Christian sawing off the head of a peace-loving muslim.

    This week the overfrocked Arch of Cant decrees Christian doctrine to be offensive to muslims.

    Also this week the black Trevor Philips describes TV employees as hideously white.

    It is escalating.

    Posted by redwhite@cross | July 17, 2008, 6:04 pm
  34. It baffles me that the clowns who run this country side with muslims but when the arch-enemy of muslims seems to side with them something is going on.

    I’m not a religious person, I’m one of the folk who put Jedi in the census due to me being a huge star wars fan, but I just can’t see the logic in this man saying the things he’s saying unless its a pr stunt to get British folk into church!

    Posted by chaos-lorddave | July 17, 2008, 6:57 pm
  35. Get ready the day of reckoning is coming!

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2M6VKgyz8eI&feature=related

    -

    Allowed as a pause for light relief ;-) - Ed

    Posted by Gamlegorm The White | July 17, 2008, 7:05 pm
  36. In the light of his pronouncement that Sharia law should be allowed in Britain and now his latest remark that Christian doctrine is offensive to Muslims, it seems to me that Rowan Williams would be so much happier converting to Islam. He could then apply for the job of public relations officer for the Muslim Council of Britain. He already has plenty of job experience. If he remains Archbishop of Canterbury it won’t be long before he advocates shared faith services, with people of all religions, and some with none at all, being accepted as equals by the church. Why stop there? Why not also accept that Satanists find the teachings of Christ offensive and perhaps they too should be allowed some freedom to practice human sacrifice under British law. This lunatic priest must be thrown out of office before he completely destroys what remains of the Church of England, which is very probably his Common Purpose objective. Nick Griffin is absolutely right that it is up to the Christian people of Britain to refuse to accept this mans’ treachery and demand a real Christian to be Archbishop of Canterbury once again.

    -
    Well.. Stanism is already accepted by the Royal Navy http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3948329.stm -Ed

    Posted by Vanguard | July 17, 2008, 8:09 pm
  37. Perhaps there should be another 14th century-style Peasants’ Revolt.
    Now I wonder; what happened to the Archbishop of Canterbury then…..?

    -

    He was born, he betrayed his country, he died - Ed

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Sudbury

    Posted by bernard | July 17, 2008, 8:51 pm
  38. There seems to be much puzzlement about the Archdhimmi’s Islamophilia. He “doesn’t realise”, he is “stupid” or “crazy”, whatever. He is none of those things. He knows exactly what he is doing. He is a Blair placeman and, like Blair and Brown, doubtless has high hopes of a generous financial reward for his contribution to the destruction of Britain.

    Like all of his fellow Cultural Marxists and Common Purpose graduates, he knows perfectly well that Islam was founded by a certifiable psychopath, hence the beheadings, the amputations, the eye-gouging, the murder of teenage daughters for wanting boyfriends, the public hanging, stoning to death or shooting of defenceless women in public, and the institutionalised paedophilia. He knows all of that but cares not, so long as he can aid and abet the Muslim invaders who are presently being used by the LibLabCon on behalf of the NWO to destroy Britain as a sovereign nation state.

    As Nick Griffin says: “Christianity is the rock upon which our democracy and our freedoms are founded”. Both of those are the very things which the Cultural Marxists seek to destroy, so who better to help them than a mole, planted by Blair as head of the Christian church, or at least its Anglican subdivision. As Stringbag observes, Williams has given and continues to give “aid and comfort” to the enemy, on behalf of his fellow LibLabCon conspirators. Thus, he is as guilty of treason as they are.

    Posted by Noel | July 18, 2008, 12:29 am
  39. The world has gone demented! Look at these links!

    July 13, 2008
    UK: Government-Sponsored Panel Of Muslim Clerics
    n a move that will almost certainly be derided by secularists, taxpayers and Muslims alike, the British government is once again trying to impose its own perception of Islam, all at the cost of the UK tax-payer.

    Islamic preachers to give moderate advice
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2299442/Islamic-preachers-to-give-moderate-advice.html

    Dalai Lama Defends Islam
    http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/dalai-lama-defends-islam/2008/07/14/1215887495097.htm

    Dalai Lama Defends Islam
    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/07/14/america/NA-US-Dalai-Lama.php

    New board of imams to tackle extremists
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article4322721.ece

    Dalai Lama Defends Islam
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,381522,00.html

    Posted by Erinmore | July 18, 2008, 12:52 am
  40. To all you true Christians, remember that all this was prophesied in the New Testament, and like us all, old Archie will have to give an account of himself to GOD when the time comes for him to shuffle off his mortal coil.
    Keep the faith and remember that the true church is not a building or a group of ordained professionals, but all of those who truly believe that the only way to salvation is through the sacrifice of our LORD JESUS CHRIST.
    WELL DONE NICK.

    Posted by crispy | July 18, 2008, 10:27 am

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