“You can vote Labour” Tory council leader tells Croydon voters
THERE’S more proof, if it was needed, that in British politics today it is only the British National Party which offers voters a chance for real change and that the old gang parties are all the same.
In Croydon, the Labour Party and the Tories are working together to try to stem the growth of the BNP in New Addington.
Councillor Mike Fisher, leader of the Tory-run Croydon Council, and the Labour leader Cllr Tony Newman, have pledged to unite in a bid to persuade residents a not to give the BNP their vote.
The move has come after a cross-party analysis of the capital-wide Greater London Assembly elections in May when 713 residents from New Addington and Fieldway voted for the British National Party, a near 50% increase in the BNP vote compared with the 2004 London mayoral elections and indication the party has emerged as the third most popular behind the Tories and Labour in the area.
The results from the 2006 local elections also worried the old gang parties. In the Fieldway ward, the BNP beat the Tories securing 692 votes, and were just 134 votes away from taking the seat won by Labour councillor Carole Bonner.
In the New Addington ward, the BNP scored 772 votes - making the party the third most popular choice behind the two leading parties.
While the next local elections in Croydon are not until 2010, Cllr Fisher and Cllr Newman said this week they would meet to discuss a plan of action.
Fisher said: “I would be very happy to enter into any sort of work with the Labour Party to try to undermine the BNP position in New Addington and Fieldway.
“I’d rather see people voting Labour than BNP.
Newman also said he’d rather residents vote for the Conservative Party than the BNP.
He said: “I will be happy to work with Mike Fisher and other political parties such as the Liberal Democrats, to send out a strong anti-BNP message.”
Croydon BNP organiser Bob Gertner, is not surprised that Labour and the Tories are now working together against the BNP.
“Both parties are in trouble and totally discredited in Croydon. On the doorstep it is the immigration and economic policies of this Labour Government that voters are angry about as well as the way the Tories are running the council. We are working very hard in New Addington and Fieldway, with regular door-to-door sales of our newspaper, Freedom, and targeted campaigning.
“The local BNP representative and candidate for New Addington is Cliff Le May and he liaises with many local groups and people in order to keep in touch with the issues that concern residents.”
The Tories telling voters they can vote for Labour?
Labour telling voters they can vote for the Conservatives.?
All further evidence that there is no difference between the old gang politicians and old gang parties and that even if David Cameron became Britain’s next Prime Minister, nothing would change.
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Sooner than later the greater public will come to realise that the lib-lab-con is in fact the same party and the liberal/left control it
Basically Labour and Conservatives have nothing to offer, so resort to insults.
“The BNP is an odious party, its views are very unpleasant to say the least so I’d rather see people vote anything but BNP - even Labour.
http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=250959&command=displayContent&sourceNode=250958&contentPK=20907631&moduleName=InternalSearch&formname=sidebarsearch&bustcache=&1214129139062#views
Note they never mention which policies of the BNP they find odious, could it be they are common sense policies that this country needs?
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Or maybe the BNP’s tendency to open up and air financial goings-on in the public sector that isn’t much to the liking of the gravy-train bunch? -Ed
Well said Bob Gertner. This country is completely controlled by a Tri-Partate dictatorship. Imagine what the country would be like, if no real choice was available other than this bunch of fraudsters, criminals, and traitors. The truth was never meant to be a part of this system. The BNP are hated alright, but not by the people, by the Marxist Mugabwe clones and their secret backers. Keep up the good work in Croydon (immigration capital of Britain) Bob.
I think that the BNP have sent a strong message to the Old Gang that their time is very soon up.
This kind of tactical voting is effectively a VOTE AGAINST DEMOCRACY. Join Mugabe, you scum.
What great news this is for the BNP.
What these two heads of the same serpent are saying is that their policies are so bankrupt, their parties so similar and so lame that all they have to offer the people of New Addington and Fieldway is a negative campaign against the only party with a positive campaign.
What a sad, sad indictment this is on the lib/lab/con and I’m sure the BNP will profit.
Sadly I am at a senior age where, having read an article, or some facts and statistics, I find it very difficult to retain the exact details in my memory. However, what I still have is the ability to form a conclusion based on that information and retain that conclusion in my mind as a probable truth. It is apparent, therefore, that having spent a long lifetime voting for the Conservative Party in a very hostile-to-the-Tories Welsh Valley, I made the right decision, some years ago, to join the British National Party. This was based on my ‘conclusion’ after much deliberation of all the facts. The above: “and that even if David Cameron became Britain’s next Prime Minister, nothing would change” is a simple statement of fact which I believe to be true and justifies my decision. Soon, as we gain power, the predatory rats will start jumping the three sinking ships. We must ensure that our Party, it’s goals, principles, honesty and ideals are not compromised by some of these ‘rats’ trying to find accommodation within it, so as to continue with their blood-sucking of public money. Even so, there are still some ‘good men’ within these other parties and, selectively, they should be made welcome in the BNP, as their ‘political skills’ are needed.
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We need more native elders to speak out these days.
Welcome aboard, sir. - Site Ed
Borris aid forced to quit over race remarks.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article4193629.ece
They really are a collective mainstream bunch of usurping swine. This is the real problem and tragedy of our voting system. I (and millions of others) have effectively not had a vote all of our lives with this ‘first past the post’ system. The fact that a candidate can win, when most of a constituency may vote against them, demonstrates how rotten it is.
It also and more sinisterly, allows tactical voting to keep someone out - hardly the original intention. It is bad for democracy and should be abolished. If it isn’t, I can see civil war looming on the horizon to get one’s democratic voice heard in order to save Britain.
They just don’t get it do they, if the established “brands” are not offering the customers what they want then new competitors enter the market to cater for those customers.
What next, Tesco saying if you don’t want to shop with us then go to Asda or Sainsburys rather than Aldi or Lidi
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Why not? After all, they’re all part of the same conglomerate, including those who build the houses and provide “finance” for mortgage slaves to service their supermarkets. - Ed
Would you believe it? Tweedledum and Tweedledee running for election in the same part of town! They must really be running scared, and advertising it too. I could hardly keep from spluttering into my cornflakes. Such an admission of defeat and weakness. Headless chickens springs very much to mind.
Of course, it’s no wonder, with this unreal Alice Throught the Looking-Glass feel to political life in Britain lately. What a pointless old Caucus Race it all is - Richard Barnbrook made to feel the odd one out at the GLA Mad Hatter’s Tea Party, the Queen chopping all our heads off at one stroke when the Lisbon death warrant, David Davis getting shirty like the melancholy Mock Turtle who used to be a real one and David Cameron, like the White Rabbit, telling us it’s too late, too late for a referendum. The BNP mustn’t worry when it suddenly starts to feel it’s getting bigger and bigger. Bye-bye Feet.
Tweedledum and Tweedledee
Agreed to have a battle;
For Tweedledum said Tweedledee
Had spoiled his nice new rattle.
Just then flew down a monstrous crow
As black as a tar-barrel
Which frightened both the heroes so,
They quite forgot their quarrel.
So appropriate, I just couldn’t resist.
What these ridiculous people have yet to grasp, is that the electors have come to see what a useless lot they are. That is why the BNP is on the up and up. The Voters have been betrayed so often and in many ways. It’s only the BNP, the people have come to realise will stand up for their rights and aspirations.
Just running scared, the commie regime is falling apart, people are just waking up to the 3 corrupt parties and their antics
vote BNP and save our country from hell, God bless you all
Democracy in action–if it wasn’t so serious it would be funny. Every time a member of the Lib/Lab/Con axis of evil open their mouths they put their foot in it. Their latest offering displayed above proves beyond doubt that the Tory and Labour heathen are one and the same–well there’s a surprise! It’s been said “give ‘em enough rope and they`ll hang themselves”. They just don’t get it do they, the people of this country are sick, nay heartily sick of being continually taken for mugs, they`re sick of political correctness, they`re sick of the human rights act, they`re sick of immigration, they`re sick of the rest of the world thinking that we`re all mugs just like our “government”. Well, the BNP are here now to change all that, and give people true democracy and there’s nothing anyone can do.
Keep plugging away at those expenses. Remember what destroyed Al Capone.
Only two choices for the British people:
The liblabcon axis of treason and the destruction of Britain -
Or the British National Party and national salvation.
Which do you really want?
Incredible! Methinks they’re some scared politicians right there.
These two clowns are only digging a bigger hole for themselves by dictating to voters. Next thing you know they’ll be asking us to vote for Karl Marx. These two seem like fascists in their actions. Keep up the good work everybody and long live the BNP.
I started leafletting with the Croydon team in early 2007 before I went to university and still try to go when I can.
So as my first post on this site I would just like to acredit Bob Gertner, Cliff Le May and all the Croydon team for the brilliant effort they have made to establish the BNP in the area. Those many, many hours delivering leaflets in New Addington and Fieldway have become worth the effort.
Vote BNP.
Dean
On a national level, NuLabour have been well and truly sussed out by the electorate and are rock bottom in all recent polls. In an equal and opposite reaction, the Tories are well ahead in the polls.
It is my opinion that the BNP should turn their full attention to the Tories and expose them as the frauds they are. Both parties (and the LibDems) are all singing from the same ‘Common Purpose’ hymn-sheet and that is why you can’t fit a fag-paper between any of the liblabcon-trick parties.
BNP leaflets and the Voice of Freedom newspaper must turn on the Tories - there are enough examples of corruption, undemocratic actions (such as mentioned in this report) and other scandals.
I’m sure Mr Barnbrook can give plenty of examples of Tory maladministration and sleaze happening in the GLA with Doris as Mayor.
The simple solution to most of their troubles would be to tackle the problems that most concern the public, i.e. immigration, lawlessness, etc., but they can’t do this because it goes against “common purpose”.
What they are achieving is self ridicule and total loss of face in the eyes of the public.
@Winston ……………..
What is the ‘first past the post’ system? … My apologies for being ignorant but I still assumed that the winner was the person or party with the most votes period?
I’m pretty sure it’s not a race like the 1500m or something like that, it is the voice of the people, not a quarter of them or half of them … but all of them having their voices heard… otherwise what is the point of having a supposed open voting system??????
I spent this weekend trying to educate myself about the EU expenses gravy train; I also read every darn thing I could find and watch on youtube about ministers’ expenses and what they can get their hot sticky hands on, and I am absolutely appalled!
My God, it is no wonder the libs/labs/cons stick together! What a deceitful, disgraceful mob they are! No wonder they don’t mind backing each other up to keep any other party out of the running!
How these politicians sleep at night I do not know; but it seems clear to me that finding an honest one with morals and a conscience would be extremely hard…. and they have the audacity to call the BNP names?
I am overwhelmed by the odorous STENCH that is emanating from Westminster and Brussels, and I will show how odious I can be if any one of the lying two-faced loathsome %&$*^& dare knock on my door ever again!
As for the EU; I would have accepted a referendum … now, knowing what I know, I want a complete withdrawal!
Get us out, please!
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Only the BNP will get us out of Europe–it will be the first task when we are in government. While we are still EU members, our hands are tied firmly to the Brussels agenda-Ed
Liverpool Lad–
We supposedly have ‘representative democracy’. (’Direct democracy’ would be 100% grass roots, but with populations of tens of millions this is regarded as impractical).
In representative democracy, people elect what are called representatives; they are of course supposed to represent all their electors. To try to make it fair, a territory is divided up into more or less equivalent chunks or constituencies.
‘First past the post’ is where each chunk elects just one MP, and the one selected is the one who got most votes. Parties make this process easier - it saves time not to have to assess your candidate in detail; on the other hand it can make for self-perpetuating cliques under a leader, rather like a church.
Proportional representation looks more complicated; the idea is that each party is represented in proportion to its votes.
Under first past the post, if you have (say) 4 parties, which get (say) 40, 30, 20, and 10% of votes cast, IF the constituenc1es were all socially exactly the same, the 40% party would win EVERY seat. Under P.R., seats would be allocated in the ratio 4:3:2:1.
So, under first past the post, the way the constituencies are cut up makes an enormous difference; ‘gerrymandering’ is an American expression for deliberately joining odd shaped bits of land as a juggle to get your voters in the majority. The boundary commission (I think it’s called) does its best to make things fair; however, as things stand, labour can get a majority even with a small percentage of the total votes. So can the Tories. It’s why they don’t want to change to P.R.
By the way, you sometimes read that the Nazis got in because the Germans had a proportional representation system. This is the opposite of the truth. If the Germans had had first-past-the-post, the Nazis would have won virtually every seat.
These traitors would sell their grannies to hang on to their jobs wouldn’t they? Meanwhile, all you at Searchlight and UAF, it’s OK to vote for us if you want!!
Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide now for the liblabcon. The knowledge that they are one political party in all but name is even now admitted by themselves. The type of person who will sell out his kith and kin in order to continue to slurp up the gravy needs not just a deadened conscience, but an active imagination to think up more lies to fool his own people. The end of the road has almost been reached with the duplicity, though there may yet be people who continue to believe it. There may be in the mind of those that Welshman accurately calls “predatory rats” a certain queasiness at the certainty of the approach of the day of reckoning. I hope so.
I say let them, if people of these wards see Labour and Tory’s interfering or influencing with their voting rights, then in theory they may vote BNP as a protest increasing the BNP vote. Let’s just hope that this new alliance doesn’t play the old trick of tampering with the ballet box, which I assume this is what they will do.
The tri-axis of evil are really scared, as is apparent by this story. They can see support for The British National Party rising at an alarming rate, hence the headlong rush to get us locked into the EUSSR before the BNP gets anywhere near power. They think that this will make it difficult to leave and have us bound to EU Marxist/Common Purpose/NWO policies. They can think again! If we stop pouring money into Europe the whole thing will collapse and we can just walk away. Things might be tough for a while, but what price do you put on your country and freedom?
Keep voting BNP if you want democracy and freedom.
Have the Labour and Conservative candidates at Henley informed their supporters that their votes are interchangeable?
The Advertiser was the font of this story. Big suprise hey. They obviously thought that the story would reflect badly on the Croydon BNP. I was brought up to believe that news paper personnel were inteligent. I learn something new daily.
The Croydon and Sutton branch are having a meeting this Thursday, all are welcome.
So much for principle eh? These Liblabcon people are now digging themselves deeper into the hole of political expediency, and they will pay the price for it as their double-dealing and dishonesty become more and more glaringly obvious to the voting public.
Who knows, these ‘anti-fascist’ fascists may start resorting to putting up posts in other people’s names. Such desperation and lack of moral fibre is totally unacceptable: this is Britain, not Zimbabwe.
‘You know you’re over the target when you start taking the flak.’ What a bunch of sad losers, surely we Brits can see off this mob?
Can’t put a price on that sort of publicty. Everyone who gets a leaflet from either party saying vote for the other party will be a victim of reverse psychology, if everyone tells you not to press a button, you at least look at the button and wonder why you can’t press it.
This seat is all but won if they carry on this way!!!! cheer!!!!
I have to say this and hope it manages to get Ed’s approval. If these swine parties - and by swine I mean Old Tory, New Labour, Same Indifferent Liberals (or whatever its name is today) and UKIP - because of their fraudulent presence and purpose - start conspiring in this way to prevent the people from choosing an alternative BNP government, they will kick-start a new kind of political struggle in this country, the like of which has never been seen - not even in Ireland.
If we even get near a situation where the majority poular vote is for the BNP and the swine parties are colluding to keep us out, or as in London recently, ballot rigging is blatantly obvious, the people will rightly say, enough is enough! We’re talking about the survival of our country and its indigenous people here and not just some corrupt cabal merely lining their own pockets. These gangsters are literally and actually fiddling while Britain and its people burn!
The British National Party is doing all it can but time is definitely running out for democratic change. We can steer the lawful path of democratic change - in spite of undemocratic forces lined up against us - but is it our fault if others decide otherwise? It will be the fault of those like the Tory/Labour swine in Croydon, who have tried at every opportunity to deny the people their rightful voice and choice.
They have been warned.
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Slightly modified Winst, we all know what you mean. - Ed.
Why are they so chicken scared of the BNP?? Is it because they may have to pay back some of the taxpayers’ money the have misappropriated? Why don’t they ban the Muslim Council of Britain? - they have more to say than we do, yet we never get to join it or vote for them. But they vote in our councils by the thousands and stand for MP/ no other alien culture does this - it speaks volumes to me. BNP 4 me God bless them.
Please excuse my ignorance, but there is one thing I am unsure of.
What is the reason that the mainstream are so anti-BNP? Why do they tell the lies that they do?
Again, sorry if this is a silly question, but I fail to see why they don’t treat the BNP as a normal opposition.
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Some of you folks out there can probably do a MUCH better job than I can to answer Toby’s questions! -Ed
This news should be very comforting - they’re starting to lose their grip on power, and I believe they know it.
It’s not a silly question Toby. the Scale of this treachery involves almost all of the Media and the Leadership of All the main political parties. The Public are fed via the media what the Traitors want them to know. That we live in a democracy, that people like James bond are out there protecting our liberties and British values.
We are being Brainwashed into accepting a Totalitarian existance inside the EU.
The Lib LAb Cons UKIP and the media are ALL in on this.
The EU ELite want to misrule over a divide populace. Communists do not care about who they rule over, it is nothing personal, you and your children are just in the way, you will not vote for the Destruction of Britain, Germany, Spain, France, so you are to be replaced, outbred.
This is what Jack Straw meant when he said ‘the British are not worth savong as a race.
This is Why Parliament has presided over 6 Million abortions, this is why even now they are talking about a bill to Sterilise British Schoolgirls.
This is Genocide.
The BNP are the Only party that will tell the truth and put Britain and the British People first.
Therefore they have to be Demonised.
The Establishment want tostop people from visiting the BNP Website and reading the Truth.
royalecraig’s post says it all.
Here then is a BNP slogan for all
British voters:
“Whenever you vote Conservative, New Labour, Liberal Democrat or UKIP, you are voting COMMUNIST!
COMMUNIST governments kill their own people - 150 million so far”.
Toby:
The three main parties have managed to lock themselves into a position they cannot escape from, with their policies being so similar to each other that it is difficult to distinguish between them at all. Any differences between them never amounts to anything more than cosmetic tinkering. That is why they are constantly referred to as the LibLabCon. There is, of course, the added barb that the final syllable, ‘con’, is also short for confidence trick, which is exactly what the three main parties are inflicting on the public. Given the foregoing, it is not suprising that they detest any other party that offers a genuine alternative set of policies and possesses the organisation to take large scale advantage of the disillusioned voters, who are likely to soon demonstrate their disillusionment in their millions when the next general election gives them the chance.
They will quite cheerfully tolerate UKIP, for instance, because they know they are never likely to constitute a danger to their own supremacy, or their ability to keep their snouts in the public purse. But the BNP is a very different kettle of fish. They know full well that if the public realises the abominations that have been heaped upon them and starts electing BNP MP’s to Parliament, as of that moment the gravy train will grind to a halt and a beam of light more powerful than any seen before will be shone upon their misdeeds. The only worry is just how far will they go to try and stop us, and frustrate the voters’ desire for genuine change.
For a member of the Left’s motives for supporting the Conservatives and vise versa, there is none better than the Mail on Sunday’s Peter Hitchens, whose interactions with Left Wing journalist Peter Kellner can be read in the link below:
http://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2007/06/at-last—the-l.html
I often drive through New Addington and believe that when the local people realise what utter contempt both main parties have for them and their concerns, that this cross party ‘truce’ involves, they will redouble their efforts to vote out the LibLabCons.
This shows that they are running scared. People of New Addington and everywhere, vote BNP for Freedom!
This only goes to show that all the main parties have backed themselves into a political corner,they can’t be seen to change their policies on subjects like immigration, multiculturalism, Eurocommunism, globalisation and so on. The BNP on the other hand, tell the truth as it is and consequently can be outspoken.
The BNP has always had its finger on the pulse, and a good example of this is Peak Oil, of which they were giving warnings at least two years ago. The main parties are, in the least, embarrassed when facing the BNP in elections, because again as an example the BNP can tell the electorate that they would come out of the EU,they would build up British manufacturing again and so on, but the main parties could not say this as it would not be true but this is exactly what the majority of the British people want.
You see a similiar thing with your daily news, as the EU make the most decisions on what we do including our laws and as the government have very little say on the major things in our every day life they rattle on about things such as how much we drink, eat and whether or not our wheely bins lid is left up six inches. The bottom line is that as we stand, and that the politicians are happy with the way things are, they are a drain on the Taxpayer. The BNP on the other hand wants to take back the sovereignty and the self-control again, so therefore is the only party worthy of a British vote.
I do perceive that there is substantial panic amongst the Liblabcon Artists.
If they are watching I would recomend them having a peep at their opinion poll. If it is anything like being representative a 64.59% vote for the BNP will give food for thought.
The results for Henley and the 3 London Council vacancies over the next few days will be watched with interest.
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Nice understatement, ip. - Ed.
EXCELENT! This plays right into our hands!
OUR TIME IS COMING!
Don’t listen to the liberals - Right-wingers really are nicer people, latest research shows… ^^
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1026442/Dont-listen-liberals–Right-wingers-really-nicer-people-latest-research-shows.html
Oi people! Cant you just SMELL the fear! March On BNP!
ArtDecade, thanks for the link to Peter Hitchens, and the e-mails commenting on his rather short article.
I’m not sure he’s right in thinking the Conservatives are fractured and hate each other any more than Labour. However he mentioned the system’s bias to Labour; curious, I Googled ‘UK General Elections Labour bias’ and found a 24-page report by 3 geographers:
http://www.essex.ac.uk/bes/epop%202005/papers/biaepop.pdf
which agrees there is a bias to labour. Unfortunately, it’s boringly written, but part of the argument [conclusions pp 9-10] is demographic - city centres shrink, and so on. Incredibly, there is no mention of immigration (and votes) at all(!). There’s also a problem that in safe seats many voters won’t bother to turn out, which affects the voting figures. Hitchen quotes someone called Peter Kellner: ‘the electoral system is so tilted against them [Tories] that they would need to get three and a half million votes more than Labour to win an absolute majority.’ I don’t think Hitchens understands why, or he’d say so. But it’s yet another worry since there must be colossal numbers of people who loathe B Ruin.
Incidentally many of the e-mails predict the Tories splitting - Cameron, etc. ‘left-leaning pro-immigration, pro-Europe, anti-family, big-state, big-business, high-tax’ maybe joining Labour! Perhaps Labour would have Cameron as leader?!
The tri-alliance is in big trouble and they know it. When we have two enemies joining forces to stop the advance of the BNP there is something very dangerously wrong with our voting system.
The nightmare senario will be when the BNP get hundreds of council by-election wins, the goverment will say well that is not democracy because all the other voters voted for other parties so the BNP got 20 percent the others got 80 percent of the vote so the candidates of the liblabcons, eukip, ‘greens’, indys and left parties would decide who to nominate the councilior between themselves.
Brown to Cameron: ‘I’ll resign if I can keep my job.’ Cameron: ‘Anything you say, Boss.’
Apologies to Private Eye.
Thank You RW. One interesting thing about Peter Hitchens observations are that they are dated 26th June 2007, and some of the observations have started to come true over this past year. For example the noble David Davis indicates that all is not necessarily well with the Conservative Party, as implied by Peter Hitchens article. But the real core of the article, and he has repeated it many times in the past year, is that he has proof in that conversation with left wing journalist Peter Kellner, that the left need the Conservative Party so that they can continue the ‘Project’. Lets vote for a National Project.
Let’s vote BNP.
@ apest
“I say let them” … well, shame on you, you’ve just uttered the latest blasphemy of political incorrectness - go and wash your mouth out with soap and water. You’ll be joining Too Quick off the Draw McGrath on the dole queue quicker than you can say John Robinson, Labour MP for Glasgow North West if you carry on allowing people to do what they want to do.