Islamists Planned to Wage War on Non-Muslims in Britain, Court is told
Plans to set up a secret Islamist state in a remote part of Scotland, and from there to wage Jihad, or ‘Holy War’ were revealed in the trial of four “British Muslims” yesterday.
In secret conversations recorded by the police, one of the main conspirators, Aabid Khan, of Bradford, explained the plan as follows: “A group of Muslims can go to a remote place and set up a mini Sharia state and they can rule according to Sharia law, like this and stay there, building them up and their children up, preparing for fitness, and then launching jihad once they strengthen themselves.”
The trial, taking place in London’s Blackfriars Crown Court, sees Khan, Sultan Muhammad, both from Bradford, West Yorkshire, Ahmed Sulieman, from Woolwich, south-east London, and Hammaad Munshi, from Dewsbury, West Yorkshire, charged with terrorism-related counts of possessing articles or documents.
The court heard the online exchange was part of a “mass” of allegedly incriminating material found by police during a series of swoops in Bradford and London two years ago.
The exchange between Khan and Muhammad about the secret Islamic state in Scotland began with Muhammad explaining how he and work colleagues had allegedly been chatting about “hijrah” or emigration for Muslims in Britain.
He then continued: “So like maybe a remote part of Scotland - people were like ‘What the hell?’ - at least to a place where there were Muslim communities.”
“In the UK you can isolate with a group discreetly and train, but better in the US as they have weapons there. Over here weapons is problem.”
Khan, described in court as a “Muslim dedicated to violent holy war” also was in possession of information about members of the royal family alongside instructions on how to kill “non-believers.” Khan was found with details about several royals’ lives, including where they lived.
Simon Denison, prosecuting, explained how Khan’s “terrorist encyclopaedia” contained instructions on how to carry out surveillance, prepare explosives, use poisons and advised on preparing for “martyrdom”.
He said one document spoke of “assassinating named personnel as well as foreign tourists and freeing captured brothers from the enemy”.
It also backed the “spreading of rumours” and “blasting and destroying places of amusement, immorality and sin”, as well as embassies, “vital economic centres” and bridges.
Denison told jurors there was information about London’s Tower Bridge, similar structures in America, and maps of New York’s and Washington’s subway systems. Among the videos recovered were some that featured the Washington Memorial in Virginia and the World Bank in the US capital.
The barrister said another file spoke of the maturity, obedience and “willingness” a jihadist required to martyr himself for his goal of establishing the global rule of Islam.
Forged identity documents, training, weapons purchasing, undercover operations, planning assassinations, and coaching “brothers” to answer questions when travelling to and from Pakistan were also dealt with.
So, too, were “guidelines to beating and killing hostages”, something Islamic scholars had ruled was allowed if they “insisted on withholding information from Muslims”.
Also permissible were suicide bombings.
Counsel told the court other “examples from the mass of information” recovered by police were a Terrorists’ Handbook, the Mujahideen Explosives Handbook, and the Mujahideen Poisons Handbook.
Jurors were told that apart from a recipe for ricin, the latter contained a section which warned the reader doses had been based on experiments with rabbits.
But it then went on to say it was “hoped brothers will carry out their own experiments on kuffir (non-believers)”.
Read the book: Jihad: Islam’s 1,300 Year War on Western Civilisation, available from Excalibur Books, here.
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“Over 50% of the Koran deals with nothing but hatred aimed at infidels.”
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2006/02/prosecutions-case-against-islam.html
“The development and deliberate cultivation of hatred is such a central feature of Islam that there is nothing that we Kuffars (infidels) can do, or not do, that would make our uninvited guests hate us any less or any more.
Rage is so intrinsic to Islam that external events are irrelevant. Hatred of non-Moslems is the pivot of Islamic existence. Muslims are bound together by a shared and carefully nurtured animosity to ‘The Other’ developed from earliest childhood, which ignites a permanent fire of tension between Moslems and non-Moslems. ”
http://ibloga.blogspot.com/2007/10/cultural-jihad-and-humiliation-of.html
I wonder where these men get their intolerant ideas for waging warfare on non-believers?
They must be yet more misunderstanders of the “Religion of Peace”.
Oh dear what a surprise! With people from Britain going to terrorist training camps what can you expect?
Let us not forget the Foreign Individuals from Guantanamo Bay that have bee imported into Britain by the Labour Incompetent Party. Let us think, unless you are for subversion how can you justify voting for the Liblabcon Artists?
So what’s new? Check out the local mosque/medrassah - places of worship or barracks?
Perhaps someone should have reminded the plant lifes that this is a Christan country. The sooner we take the kid gloves off with the Muslims the better
I have read the book Jihad, from Excalibur books. I recommend it to anyone trying to ‘understand’ Islam.
Place of worship?
http://www.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/1/285×214/39883_1.jpg
Or fortress designed to dominate the surrounding area …
I am amused by the thought that they wanted to go to a remote spot to set up an Islamic state, have sharia law & wage war on the infidels. I thought they did that already quite openly in the cities, but I guess they want all corners of our country to benefit from their culture & teachings whether you want it or not.
The sooner this country is off limits to them the better.
A secret islamic state in Scotland? Is’nt there already a de facto Islamic state in E. Lancs/W.Yorks. where the “religion of peace” has it’s own parliament, justice system, legal system, schools system & now financial system up & running? The only thing that’s missing is its own armed forces & they’re working on that by being trained in the Indian sub-continent (and elsewhere), then returning here waiting for the call to arms in true 5th column fashion. All this whilst our armed forces are being deliberately run down by successive treasonous governments. Wakey wakey people!
It always sounds weird when you hear a report like ‘…police have arrested a 26 year-old man, Mohammed Iqbal Kuffirkilller, from Saffron Walden…’
These psychos are not British, whatever a piece of paper says. In any meaningful sense they are not ‘from’ anywhere in Britain and do not belong here. It would be much better for everyone if they just packed up and left for their home in the Northwest Frontier.
On second thoughts, if it is necessary for them to form a community in a remote part of Scotland, can I suggest the island of Gruinard?
What would David Cameron say? Probably something like: “Muslims feel marginalised in today’s Britain.”
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“We must be careful about the language we use. Many Muslims are deeply offended by the use of the word ‘Islamic’”
Like all the other parties, the dhimmi Tories don’t mind marginalizing Brits; it’s the Muslims they’re looking after.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2007/may/13/race.immigrationpolicy - Ed
If the hostility of many Glasgow people to the recent influx of thousands of foreign criminals from Ukraine, Slovakia, Czech Republic and Romania is anything to go by, then the Islamic terrorists who come up here are in for a sweet surprise.
Funny post on usenet on alt.politics.british
“Muslims to hold day of anger”
response:
“How will we tell?”
“Ahmed Sulieman, from Woolwich, south-east London….”
This one has six children and that is the deadliest danger of all; the demographic time bomb ticking away under the burkha. There is a massive potential pool of jihadis here now as it is:
“Four out of 10 British Muslims want sharia law introduced into parts of the country, a survey reveals today.”
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1510866/Poll-reveals-40pc-of-Muslims-want-sharia-law-in-UK.html
“Aabid Khan, from Bradford, West Yorkshire, said the only problem was the availability of weapons, the court was told. ” BBC
He basically nails it from their point of view, you can’t have a jihad without weapons. This is why it is absolutely essential that they are kept out of the army (the only positive out of Iraq and Afghanistan). It is essential that the army is kept at sufficient strength for the defence of the people of this country, especially the infantry. The excellent account in “Sniper One” by Sergeant Dan Mills shows that they are well capable of dealing with Islamists. Unfortunately this cretinous and malignant government has apparently inflicted a lot of damage on the army; which is the ONLY SURE SHIELD that we have. What do lib-lab-con propose? Allowing them to double their numbers whilst jihadis smuggle in automatic weapons, RPGs, mortars? Repatriation is the only course to adopt.
Yes we need a Guantamamo bay here. We need to round up all these fiends before they spill more real British blood. The British island of Rockhall in the mid Atlanic ocean sounds like a good place.
I despise this government for ever appeasing to Muslims, and allowing a huge influx of them to come and live here. Now we are surrounded by this evil in every corner of Britain. God help us, and our children.
Furthermore, I want to second Welshpatriot’s recommendation of the book by the great author, Arthur Kemp, called Jihad, Islam’s 1300 year war on the West. It is brilliant. I am reading it for the 6th time now….it’s a must read.
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I’ll second that. It IS brilliant, like the man himself-Ed
There should be no mucking about with these people, they should be deported without a trial, without an appeal, without anything!
I see several other European countries have had enough of these people too! This is the start of the end for Islam in Europe!
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Don’t count on it. I’m sure Hazel Blears is preparing to give these moslems a grant to get them to integrate! -Ed
Samba,
Naaa, whilst I agree with your thinking, this would cost the tax payer even more……..I’d rather just get them off British soil……deporting is cheaper!
“blasting and destroying places of amusement, immorality and sin”, ?
I guess that Glastonbury is safe this year then.
I still say the BBC should make a sitcom of this and call “jihads army”
Or” some muslims do ave em” or even ”only fools and halal”
“Islam will take over Europe without violent force within a few decades, said Libyan Leader Moammar Gadhafi in a speech aired on the Arab satellite network Al Jazeera”
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=50020
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Some people live in Fantasy Land. Britain will NEVER be Islamic, with or without force (i.e. targetting of civilians). Anyone with other ideas should GET OUT at the earliest opportunity and remove themselves to the Islamic paradise of their choice. - Ed.
No more playing around.
Renounce Jihad or we will throw you out.
Abide by BRITISH LAW and respect OUR CUSTOMS AND WAY OF LIFE or be kicked out.
Any mosques found to be harbouring Jihadists or Jihadist sentiment will be BULLDOZED.
Anyone who wants to live in a backward Islamic state, GO AND LIVE IN ONE BECAUSE THIS AIN’T IT.
Aaah, poor things. They’re just crying out for a hug, therapy and a chocolate biscuit.
When you compare the recipes for living together of Muslims and Liblabcon, it’s like comparing night with day. Wake up and turn the light on, dhimmiwits. You have clutched a viper to your breast.
This story must be wrong surely. I cant believe that four “British lads” would plan such atrocities as described in your story, It must be a “Fit up” yea, that’s what it is alright…….BNP FOR ME.
I suspect the Bali bombing was aimed against a place of sin, though of course the media were too asleep to report that. Not a very enviable position if you’re in a south sea paradise - sex tourism so the women are used as prostitutes, or bombings by Muslims. I’m sure Hazel Blears would have helpful things to say, though.
The Wild Side
Perhaps they would appreciate the friendliness of a Glaswegian handshake!
The Wild Side-Aye…Dont mess with the `Weegies` !
There’s a history of trying to bomb ‘dancing slags’ in “places of amusement, immorality and sin”: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6466817.stm
Some of these jihadists have weird sexual hang-ups: http://kenlydell.typepad.com/islamic_evil/muslim_sexual_perversion/index.html
Muslims are the biggest danger to this world. And ok I accept they are not all religious nutjobs, but there are a lot that are. Even the ones who don’t take any part in terrorist activity do not tell the police about anything they know. This serious threat to our lives is not helped by the continuous building of yet more unwanted mosques and clerics invited by pc do gooders going into schools and brainwashing children.
Islam will never work in the west. It is just a shame that Muslims cannot accept this. Many that I have seen are in full islamic dress. Many dislike our culture and want us to follow theirs, which will never happen.
They should go back to Pakistan, and leave us all alone. It would be great if England was the way it was 20 years ago.
EnglandxChick
You are right, Britain will never be Islamic.
You are right in that the Muslims never ever tell on their own kind, the reason being that they do not object to terrorism because the Koran justifies it. How many mosques are used for terrorist teaching purposes and the so-called moderate Muslims turn a blind eye?
Where is the big campaign by the Council of British (sic) Muslims to sort out their own kind?
They are blind to anybody of a different culture, which has always been their downfall in Europe and I believe will be again, ( certainly in Britain ).
The IRA had a similar situation in that they were rarely caught because the Catholics couldn’t disagree with their tactics enough to tell on them.
All terrorists are vulnerable without community support, if they are to be a successful repeating cell within the enemy’s country.
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Not forgetting the intimidation imposed on Muslems by their own so-called ‘community leaders’ - Ed.
jao7, its a Glasgow kiss–not a handshake. And yes I wouldn’t mind given some of these scum one.
I’ve read many times on here that Britain will never become an Islamic state, but as more and more grow up with the right to vote and their numbers swell, there’s nothing to stop them from running for council seats.
The British public don’t seem a bit interested, and even another terrorist attack in London won’t open some of these idiots’ eyes. These people work 24/7 to destroy us so the members of the BNP must work 24/7 to wake the Brits up!!!!
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I’m shutting my ears
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Calm down, take a deep breath and go and make a cup of strong, sweet tea. - Dr Ed
Sorry, but I haven’t noticed the word “treason” mentioned anywhere, or have I missed something? These specimens of pondlife have clearly stated that they intend to overthrow the state in the United Kingdom, against the will of its citizens. That is treason. Are they going to be tried on that charge? Do we still execute this kind of organism? If not, we should.
Too right! I’ve just read in one sitting Arthur Kemp’s excellent eye-opening work “Jihad” and can only say to my Christian brothers and sisters - with regard to the next Crusade - Bring It On!
Open Borders leads to more Fundamentalist threats which leads to greater Police state Powers.
Any sane person would close the Borders so this Muslim threat is being deliberately arranged.
They want us distracted & squabbling amognst each other whilst they seize control and hide behind their Police state.
Don’t fall for it, Islam is a very real threat but the head of this Beast Lies in Westminster.
http://www.iamanenglishman.com
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The Hegelian Dialectic - create the problem, manipulate the response, come up with the solution. A solution which puts you in the position you wanted to be in in the first place but needed to create the problem in order to get there. - Ed
While these Muslim swine get their British fair trial, another two Real Brits have been murdered by the same type Muslim swine in Afghanistan tonight. 2 Para again. Rest In Peace guys - God’s revenge will be sweet indeed.
Last year some idiot’s in labour were trying their best to ban things what the indiginous population have enjoyed for hundreds of years - like. Christmas for example. What give’s them the right - true that will never happen as at the end of the day however much certain vile parasites in this country don’t want it to be the case we live in a Christian country - NOT ISLAMIC!
It beggars belief that the natural owners of this country can sit back and allow this sort of plot to be hatched under their noses without so much as a whimper of objection.
Why aren’t these murderous scum dragged to a port and bundled wholesale out of this country.
They forfeit any “human rights” they ever had,the minute they set out to murder innocent members of the British public,for the simple reason that they refuse to become bloodthirsty fanatical followers of what must be the vilest religion ever.
Also,nobody will ever convince me that this government are not actively encouraging them with their pathetic show trials and lenient sentences for the blatent racist violence against anyone with white skin,and the way they try to cover them up. Gordon Brown,we have extremely long memories and you and your fellow criminals will one day answer for the appalling betrayal of our country!
Thanks ed. I’ve made a copy on my own non-PC PC and gone round the patriotic blogosphere dropping it off as a comment on relevant posts for the bloggers to use as a resource or not as they see fit.
To SimonG, thanks for the comment, but it’s my wicked humour: Rockhall is an island of 20ft high by 30ft across.
Thanks from me too Ed, for letting that one through from Artorius. I’ve quickly saved it and suggest others do the same post-haste before it times out. Such posts demonstrate–as do many, many others–the steely resolve and determination going on in many homes and offices around the country (and world) to take this land back and finally kick Islam out.
Those (most of us) who choose to pay the wretched BBC Lies Tax should consider giving an equal amount every year to the BNP to offset/counteract it. My wife chooses to pay it because she doesn’t want BBC contracted-out hate mail and lowlifes coming around here–but she is a BNP Member and she recently donated to the BNP and Tim Rait’s Battle for Henley and its good people. I thought I had too but that was to the Truthtruck Appeal, so I will be correcting that oversight later.
I’ve said it before: these articles and posts on the BNP Website are worth far more than the £135.50 Lies Tax that it is easier for most good people to pay than to try to avoid. However, I think from now on we in this house will give an equal amount to the BNP on the same day that we pay the BBC Lies Tax. I reckon it will feel really good–a bit like having a good, hot bath after being mugged!
Thanks to Artorius for that gem of a post.
There is a major problem with expecting the native Brits to take back their country. At least one generation has been brainwashed in school into being ashamed of British history and revering the cultures of immigrants. And it is the younger generation we would need to fight to regain our country. How can they do that when they no longer believe in it? I have been shocked at the response I have had when discussing the negative influences of mass immigration and the likelihood that we will be living as slaves in our own land if it continues at its present rate, The responses range from total dismissal to absolute outrage and accusations of racism. I have come to the conclusion that the generation we would need to rely on to free us either believes the trash they get in school and through the media or are too afraid to say that they know what is happening but dare not admit it for fear of the religious/race police force now operating in the UK
Former US Attorney General John Ashcroft summarized the clash of world views when he opined:
“Islam is a religion in which God requires you to send your son to die for him, but Christianity is a faith in which God sent His son to die for you”.
Artorius : Wow. You really know your stuff. Impressive.
The excellent article posted by Artorius is now here -
http://isupporttheresistance.blogspot.com/2008/06/jihad-multi-headed-monster-devouring.html
Main page -
http://isupporttheresistance.blogspot.com/
As an aside, could I please warn the good fellows of the BNP, members and supporters alike not to be goaded into being abusive towards muslims. I have had a few in my area who attempt to get me to say or do something in the hope I can be arrested. You will find there is far more satisfaction in silence and walking away and leaving bystanders watching a dignified and British response to a hysterical squeak from the religion of peace.
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How long should we remain silent, and will our silence guarantee theirs? - Ed
“How long should we remain silent, and will our silence guarantee theirs? - Ed”
Ed: my point is whilst onlookers see the religion of peace acting in an aggressive manner (including holding signs saying “God Bless Hitler”), whilst we remain dignified we slowly but (as recent history has proven) surely pull voters towards our position. The entire 4th estate portray us as rabid skinhead thugs who rant and scream at anything not White. I believe that anyone who openly represents the party should take the moral high ground by not verbally responding to muslim agitators. Think about this - when someone starts screaming abuse, they turn the audience away from them.
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Understood.
We have no intention of responding to agitators.
Let them expose themselves for what they are. - Ed
Absolutly disgusting…i feel ashamed to call this country my homeland.
These people should be charged with treason…but nope, lets pat them on the back Labor and give them some well deserved “therapy”
Onwards and upwards with the BNP!