A TEENAGE motorist was told to remove an England flag from his car by a police officer because it could be offensive to immigrants.
Ben Smith, 18, was driving back home to Ingram Road in Melksham on Thursday evening after filling up with petrol, when the officer stopped him on a routine patrol.
He checked the tax disc and tyres on his Vauxhall Corsa but when he noticed the flag of St George on the parcel shelf he told Mr Smith to take it down.
Mr Smith, who works for G Plan Upholsterers on Hampton Park West, said: “He saw the flag and said it was racist towards immigrants and if I refused to take it down I would get a £30 fine.
“I laughed because I thought he was joking, but then I realised he was serious so I had to take it down straight away. I thought it was silly - it’s my country and I want to show my support for my country.”
Mr Smith had recently installed new speakers in the parcel shelf of his car and wanted to cover them up so they did not get stolen.
Read the full story in the Wiltshire Times here.
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Im in Spain at the moment and why on earth would I want to come back after Exeter and things like this…England is on life support!!!
We should all display the flag of St George at every opportunity.
This sort of story really enrages me. I didn’t serve in HM’s Armed Forces to see my fellow countrymen being treated like criminals for being patriotic.
It is not illegal to display the Flag of St George (if it has no writing on it) and he should have told the police officer to get stuffed and demanded to be taken to court.
I certainly would have.
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You can let your feelings be known to Wiltshire Police by contacting them here:
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I just did - Ed.
What the hell is wrong with this country? We used to have the finest culture and civilisation in the world, spreading our light across a quarter of the globe. Now we’re told we can’t show our love and support for our nation because it may be offensive to a paedophile-worshipping, illiterate foreigner who’s just discovered the joys of council-housing.
When will this madness end?
I have had problems with the “pigs” in Wiltshire myself.
Good advice - when stopped by the police always take their number, especially if they ask for your name! I’m glad this has been reported by at least one tabloid.
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Always ask to see their Warrant Card, and, if you can, record the conversation on your mobile phone … take their picture, too. Return the intimidation. They don’t like it but can’t stop you from doing it - Ed
Is every policeman following the common purpose mantra? Do they not question the stupidity and danger of what the lib/lab/con alliance are creating. The thought police have no support from the general public and this is just another example of why I’d never trust a ‘copper’.
I have nothing against homosexuals, however I would ask questions as to why an English chap cannot fly his “racist” flag when this happens:
South Wales Police Fly Rainbow Flag Alongside Their Own
South Wales Police is flying the gay pride flag at police headquarters in Bridgend to celebrate Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual and Transgender History Month’ in the UK.
The national celebration follows in the wake of South Wales Police being named the most gay-friendly employer in Wales by the gay rights organization, Stonewall, who placed the police force as 17th in the top 100 British businesses for gay people to work in.
“As part of our commitment to all our diverse communities, we are proud to fly the international Gay Pride Flag this month—with its rainbow motif which is a sign of diversity, peace and inclusiveness,” Deputy Chief Constable Peter Vaughan of South Wales Police said.
http://www.gayjob.biz/page.cfm?Sectionid=5&typeofsite=snippetdetail&ID=1747&snippetset=yes
Police State or what? I would say this Policeman should be sacked on the spot, without a fat pension.
If I find the Nigerian flag racist and offensive, which police officer will demand it be removed from display?
Dear Wiltshire Police. I find most immigrants offensive and demand they be removed.
England’s Flag offensive to immigrants? They shouldn’t bloody come here then. What flag did they expect us to fly in England? This is just CP PC being stupid and I would have let him try to fine me, it would have been thrown out of court. I’m sure that nearly all immigrants would NOT find it offensive, except maybe some of the beligerent ones from the `religion of peace`. The police force are getting out of control now and are no longer fit for purpose and should be shut down. They don’t protect us anymore, they let a suspected bomber board a bus with a rucksack in Plymouth (and London). They are presiding over more shootings and stabbings than ever before and then waste time stopping a patriotic Englishman flying his Nation’s flag. You couldn’t make it up!
Stop the madness, vote BNP.
This sort of thing makes my blood boil…………….can you hear it? :-)
So, when I next go into M&S to do my shopping and see, horror/shock cartons of milk with the English flag on it, can I call the police and tell them to demand that the cartons be removed as they may be offensive to any immigrants in the shop?
If I was the young man involved I would go and see a good lawyer with regards to issuing a suit for harrasment by the police,(who were clearing operating outside of their legal jurisdiction.
Oh and another thing. Number plates with the English flag. Offensive and evil!!
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Where can we get them? - Ed.
I would answer any policeman who stopped me for having a St George’s flag: “This flag cannot be racist because it is the emblem of a nation, not a race. There is no flag of the white race. If you know of one, pray tell me what it is. Polish people would not be offended, any more than I would be if I was in Poland and saw a Polish flag. In fact, I would be delighted because it would help me enjoy the indigenous flavour of the country which is why I would be there.”
Then I would go back to work at G Plan and have all my car seats re-upholstered in white with a red cross on each one.
Give it another 10 years and the current rate that muslim MP’s are being elected under the guise of Labour or Lib dems it wont be long when a whole council will have majority muslim councillors, then you wait and see the added by-laws that emerge!
A vote for a muslim MP is a vote for islam.
This lady found out the hard way, 16 years pandering to them and as a leaving present they suddenly became muslim and wouldnt have their pictures taken with a female, which is offensive and discrimination and illegal.
One more thing to note, is Democracy is also against islam.
but its ok if they have to use democracy and pol;itical correctness to further the cause of islam , and the sooner people realise the better.
http://www.mirfieldreporter.co.uk/news/Tearful-mayor-in-attack-on.4111971.jp
She’s been enriched !
It’s not just the Labour/LibDem parties they belong to and they aren’t all even being elected, some are being ‘appointed’ - David Cameron has appointed one Sayeeda Warsi as Shadow Communities Secretary and to the House of Lords. What’s that all about? - Ed
I did a job for a Restaurant with the name “Indian” in it. It was not run by Indians, but by Bangladeshi muslims. When I presented the card proof which had the Indian Flag as a background I was told to “get rid of that sh*t”. Well obviously I couldn’t work for nasty racists like that and walked away.
Oue wonderful police — Don’t you just love them. Murder and mayhem all around and they stop someone with an ‘offensive’ flag!!
They get all smart & tough with a teenager who they have stopped in his car. No doubt the driver’s identity, car details, inside leg measurement etc etc were known before stopping. So the ‘tough guys’ have the upper hand?
Does Excalibur not sell car flags?
WebMonkey Says: I believe they do…
http://products.bnp.org.uk/cgi-bin/sh000002.pl?REFPAGE=http%3a%2f%2fproducts%2ebnp%2eorg%2euk%2facatalog%2fsearch%2ehtml&WD=car%20flag%20mounted%20england&PN=Online_Catalogue_Flags_2%2ehtml%23a41#a41
ps — forgot to add. Wasn’t it the Wiltshire Police Farce that refused to fully investigate the racist attack on the school boy Harry Webster (?) at Ridgeway school? It is obviously clear, the PC PCs of Wilts Police have their own agenda when it comes to crime. The Moonrakers of Old must be turning in their graves.
Um…sounds a bit fishy; somebody impersonating a police officer perhaps, or am I being too kind? Anyway, it is for the courts to decide on points of law, not the police and judges tend to be rather robust with public servants who exceed their powers. If this guy really was a PC and he objects to our national flag, he really has a problem, big time. Anyway, didn’t our beloved leader recently indicate that he wanted to see our flag flying more? But let us rejoice: today is Empire Day aka Queen Victoria’s birthday.
This is to be expected as the police are institutionally racist against white people.
Regarding racists attacks on whites.
Rob Knox was stabbed to death by 2 black youths in a bar in Sidcup, Kent/London over an argument over a mobile phone. This may not be a racist attack, but these attacks on whites in London are becoming too common now and are really sickening.
Thanks for posting the email address. I have taken the opportunity to “advise” the force - to use their own parlance.
As a former West Countryman, I am disgusted by this. Thank goodness I now live in Wales. I can’t see even Mr. Brunstrom’s PC force having much success at getting the red dragon removed!
If you have your mobile phone with you, and are stopped by a ‘PC loony’ PC, I wonder if it would be a good idea to discreetly take a picture and/or video of the officer concerned and post it here, so that we can all have a good laugh.
Also, if the clip was picked up by news agencies, this would add considerably to the embarrassment of the officer concerned.
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Evidence is one thing, vendettas are another. The BNP will always uphold due process. This is not YouTube. - Ed.
This makes my blood boil. Send this story to all your friends and workmates. If this does not further arouse the British nation then nothing will.
I am so angry.
My flag is going on my parcel shelf tomorrow.
Every Nationalist in Britain should fly an England car flag all yeah round, or at least display their nations flag as a sticker on the bumper! I do both, and fly the flag on my car ALL year round! Its gets right up the noses of the leftie Labour types!
OUR TIME IS COMING!
Re: Robert Knox stabbing in Sidcup
Sorry for posting about this again but Robert played for the same rugby team as Jimmy Mizen who was murdered last week. Two white boys murdered from the same team, just make me feel really sick inside.
David Cooper*s remarks about Polish people are abusive. Polish people respect British identity, as many thousands of Polish officers who stayed in Britain after IIWW, have proved.
Polish people need strong and self-confident Britain with her respectable history and identity to resist EU bureaucrats.
What a joke! I’d have let the turkey arrest me!
Maybe we should ALL complain to the police/councils whenever we see a foreign flag flying in towerblock windows? I’ve seen quite a few lately - how come they can show their flags off but we can’t? Oh yeah I just remembered - racism IS a 1 way street isn’t it!!!
I agree with PhiltyPhil.
The idea of someone else being allowed to present their country but not ourselves, even in our own country, is outrageous.
Our flag isn’t offensive to anyone, if it is, then why does each country bother even to have their own flag?
The boys in blue really do have a thing about national symbols.
“A GULF War hero was banned from joining the police because he has a Union Jack and the words “British Army” tattooed on his arm.
Proud Sgt Ivan Ivanovic was told the two-inch design could be seen as RACIST.
Ivan was stunned as he has served Britain for 22 years, seeing action in the first Gulf War and playing peacekeeping roles in Iraq and Kosovo.
The dad of two wanted to become a police Community Support Officer when he quits the Army. But Cumbria Constabulary refused to consider him due to the tattoos.
Ivan, 40, who serves with the Royal Electrical and Mechanical Engineers at Catterick, North Yorks, said: “I can’t see why anyone would think that the flag of the country might be seen as racist.”
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article62787.ece
Absolutely disgraceful. My flag will be flying on my Truck on Monday !!
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We’ll be looking out for ya! - Ed.
And here’s another one:
“PATRIOTIC squaddie Craig Briggs has been barred from joining the police — because he’s got an ENGLAND tattoo on his arm.
The Iraq veteran, 22, had wanted to be a cop since childhood and was advised to join the Army to get experience first.
But when he applied he was told: “Unfortunately, some people feel intimidated by the word England.”
Last night Craig, who has just completed 4 years with the 3rd Battalion The Yorkshire Regiment, said: “I am shocked and disgusted.
“I don’t understand how it can cause offence. It is our country, after all.”
Craig applied to join Greater Manchester Police shortly before returning to civvy street this month.
When he admitted he had a tattoo, he was asked to send a photo of the inch-high Gothic letters spelling ENGLAND on the underside of his right forearm.
He was later told he had been rejected by the recruitment department.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/campaigns/our_boys/article949586.ece
Ed, you said you sent an Email to wiltshire police. could you show me their reply please?
I had eggs thrown at my flag on St Georges day, and have numerous times been asked to take it down by police. Took it down then put it up straight after they went, anyway, if ever a copper tells you to remove your flag, whether it be the the Saltire or St George, give them a lengthy load of questions on why its not racist to have a mosque on an old church site, or to see a load of czechs flaunting their countries colours. Then tell them what they plan to do about the name England, and the grass, and trees and earth as its English, therefore must be racist and offensive.
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Standard reply - ‘Thank you for contacting us - your message has been passed to the appropriate Department for their attention.’ (The Department being their ‘deleted items’ folder, no doubt!) - Ed
Yes well, in this country you can fight and die for the country! but, you cannot possibly offend anyone that comes here pleading that they are being persecuted and in fear of death in their own country.
IF they were in genuine fear in their own countries they wouldn’t care if we had the streets painted red white and blue all year,they wouldn’t mind or care if you had tattos all over your carcasse saying I love England they would be glad of a safe place to live they probably would have the same tattoo.
This lady will tell you what we risk losing !
Only the foolish , gullable and bigots refuse to accept the truth, one day very soon they will be forced to accept it, when it’s in their back yard.
I have four friends who are retired Police Officers: one from the RUC, one from the Met, one from a S Wales Force, and one from a N England Force. All of these would agree (with me) that the “British Bobby” is a creature of the past, and maybe of the imagination, as this regrettable story illustrates. I hope to be proven wrong in thinking that very many PC’s are more concerned with their pensions that with their country and its people.
I have a vote BNP sticker with flag, on my Aston Martin DB7, I seriously dare any copper to ask me to remove it, my solicitor will enjoy the sport.
Just yesterday on another post (Youth arrested for calling Scientology a “cult”), I mentioned yet again that although I had a middle class upbringing, and for most of my life I regarded the Police with respect, I ceased to do quite some time ago. Bullies and idiots employ other bullies and idiots; it is called promoting the culture. It works from the top down, where the Chief Constable is always a pc political appointee. Right the way down through the ranks, we have a culture wherein bullies and idiots (often one and the same) grab every opportunity to exceed their statutory authority as they persecute the law-abiding and permit criminals to run riot.
At root, this is driven by the compulsion to secure arrests:- not charges, not convictions; just arrests - as the Police have state-imposed arrest targets to meet. The Police have realised that if they bandy around the term “racist”, they are free to call almost anything an offence, over-riding the Rule of Law, exceeding their authority, and goading the innocent until an arrest can be made - thus bumping up their record of arrests.
To be a Policeman in contemporary Britain, you have to be a bully, a thug, an idiot (but posessed of a degree of low cunning), and entirely free of principle and patriotism, so that you can follow your Chief Constable’s pc-line. pc bullies are in charge of each force, and pc bullies and thugs are employed and promoted all the way through the ranks.
I despise the Police. They are instruments of oppression; they are servants of the state, which is itself evil; they are no longer accountable to the people, nor drawn from the community. They are despicable.
Thinking about it more, this is the work of the Marxists. Marxists want all forms of nationalism destroyed.
My natural reaction would be to phone up the police everytime I see a flag from a different country other than England. But where would it get us?
The state wouldn’t care, nor would any Marxist police officer.
I’ll fly my flag, I’ll let others fly there’s and they’ll be nothing the old bill can do about it.
There’s no way I would have taken the flag down because it is NOT breaking any laws to fly the flag of ones own country.[or any one elses????] The only people our flag would be offensive to are our enemies,people who hate us and all we stand for.Surely this case would be thrown out of court as ludicrous.I suggest that we ALL start flying our countrys flag whenever and wherever we can,and I will be putting my England flag in my car window today! I wish I had TWO flagpoles at my house so that I could fly the flag of Saint George AND the Union Jack side by side.
Are the Royal Navy also going to be told they must not fly the White Ensign,and merchant ships the Red Duster?? How much more of these insults must WE the British take in our own country?? I have never heard of such total garbage!!Rule Brittannia!!
Wiltshire Police have just received my comments…
I sent this to Wiltshire police:
Your treatment of this young man and the English flag is disgusting! In any other country in the world people are proud to display their patriotism. This is an act of treason. If immigrants don’t like OUR flag, or our love for OUR country they should be shown the door.
I have the Union Flag painted on my car roof…..will I need to get the car crushed because it might offend some immigrant?
I completely agree with the post by Stanislaw08.
This issue has absolutely nothing to do with Polish people. Poland is a country I strongly support and the Poles that I know would certainly not be offended by any national flag. Quite the reverse, they would support our position.
Must be the polices attitude, i live near Poole in Dorset & there are Union Jack/England flags flying everywhere!
I lived in Spain for a few years & they fly their Flag at every chance they get. I was not offended by this because it’s their Country. Even if I had been, I think they would have told me to p… off if I did not like it, & they would have been right. We should be able to fly our flag & be proud of it. It’s time for us all to make a stand on these silly rules they keep coming up with.
Checking up on Askari’s eloquent post, I googled for police arrest targets. First was the Daily Mail which has several articles. Ministers axe targets which put littering on par with murder says ‘A damning report last week by policing watchdog Sir Ronnie Flanagan said the targets were perverse and a straitjacket which forced officers to pursue bizarre cases’. It say also ‘The Home Office and the Ministry of Justice are quietly dropping the controversial approach which encourages police to deal with as many offenders as possible no matter how serious or trivial the crime’ and ‘From now on police forces will be told to focus on the most serious violent crimes, along with burglary and mugging hotspots, and to chase ‘the most harmful offenders - particularly drug-misusing offenders’.’
Daid Davis said “Violent crime has doubled under Labour, the result of disastrous policy decisions - including a multitude of perverse law enforcement targets, reams of red-tape stifling the police and a lax approach to binge-drinking and drugs.”
Is this just spin? Jacqui Smith, supposedly Home Secretary, inspires less than zero confidence in me, as did the loathesome Jack Straw.
Googling Ronnie Flanagan gives this police site
http://police.homeoffice.gov.uk/police-reform/flanagan-police-review/
His report was presented 7 Feb 2008, and replied to 2 months later , 9 April - there’s a huge download for people who love wordprocessorese political spin. I presume the then-response may be changed, as the 10% tax band fiasco was hurriedly changed.
Wouldn’t it be great if everyone in Melksham decided to drive to work monday morning with a flag of St George on their parcel shelf. Would the police be willing or capable of fining everyone? I think not. It may seem silly to some people but this is how tyranny begins. With small things like this that go incrementing until we find ourselves completely subservient to big brother. Perhaps Wiltshire BNP could organize a ‘Drive to work with the flag of St George day’?
I am an immigrant, Frenchman in London. I love being here and I like England to be England, not Baghdad or Tripoli or Mecca. I would have no problem flying the St George Cross flag in support.
Some immigrants - unfortunately - follow a religion that preaches the systematic extermination of all non-followers, something far more discriminatory than the British constitution. But when cars have some little muslim decorations hanging from the rearview mirror, what does the police do?
Well, those decorations mean, among other things, I hate miscreants and they should be killed. Like heascarves do. It’s in the “holy” book.
Personally, my favourite historical figure is Charles Martel, and I hope one day we’ll celebrate him in France. I think Richard the Lionheart and Philippe-Auguste made some nice things together too.
Anyone knows a country where muslims settled in numbers and there was NO war as a consequence?
The idiots used to mention Lebanon… the ignorants would praise the califate in Adalucia…
But Hitler’s reich was eliminated, the USSR crumbled, hopefully Eurabia is next.
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Thanks for your comment and welcome aboard, FFL. - Ed
I’m offended by people being asked to remove any British flag. Will my views be considered by the PC Brigade? Of course not, because I’m white, British, (Yorkshire too) and bloody well proud of it, but that does not make me an “oppressor” of ethnic minorities.
Anyway if anyone finds any British flag offensive - leave Britain. End of story.
By the way… the St George Cross is a cross. It’s a religious symbol too!
Ben Smith was potentially asked to remove a religious sign because it offended people from another religion, even if the cop didn’t say it.
When muslims burn a Danish or UK flag, then burn crosses. Trust them in the middle-east to know what it means, even if the media and politicians here do not know, because they have no culture and no sense of history, or do not say it, because they have no honour and no honesty.
The real motives are questionable, and maybe this policeman had something against the cross in general. Then again, we do not know his religion do we…
”A TEENAGE motorist was told to remove an England flag from his car by a police officer because it could be offensive to immigrants”.
The Common Purpose Cultural Marxist careerists in charge of our once world-respected institutions are responsible for the present decline to third-world standards. This is no surprise as it is the oft-quoted stated aim of this satanic Marxist cult to destroy western civilisation & white nation-states.
The harrassment of this young English lad going about his lawful business is another sure sign that the police have been politicised. And a politicised police force is a sure sign of the emerging police state Britain is becoming under the lib/lab/con EU/NWO gang.
I have already e-mailed Wiltshire Police & while our protests will most certainly be ignored they cannot ignore the fact of our existence if thousands of us do the same. An e-mail only takes a minute or two & makes our presence known to our would-be masters.
The Swiss liberator William Tell’s revolt against the Austrians began with his refusal to bow down to the Austrian governor Gessler’s hat, set up in the village as an icon before which the villagers had to make obeisance. This is a mirror image of the same revulsion - we are NOT going to bow down before a banning of our nation’s flag.
The native people of Britain are on the receiving end of a politically correct Marxist pogrom. I’m sure many have noticed, notice that when ever a black is killed by a white, the verdict is racially motivated murder but whenever a white is killed by a black, the verdict is just manslaughter.
The communists running the EU decided decades ago that there was not going to be an uprising in the west because people where too comfortable under a democratic system. They decided the only way they where going to get a revolution was by radicalising minority groups, the more minority groups radicalized the better. They then turn minority groups against each other creating multiple scapegoats and creating civil and racial tensions. They are using massive uncontrolled immigration to turn native Britons into a minority and also turn us into scapegoats by calling us racists when we try to defend ourselves.
They have even turned us against our old World War 2 allies, white Christian poles. I have in the past worked with poles and know Polish people, they have far more in common with us than Muslims could ever have. Beware of doing exactly what the PC communists want, violence and civil unrest to destroy our country and allow them to impose EUSSR martial law.
”Must be the polices attitude, i live near Poole in Dorset & there are Union Jack/England flags flying everywhere!” - SimonGB
And the moral of the story here lads & lasses is . . .
In every hamlet, every village, every town & city fly the patriotic flags & bunting with pride & the Red Fascist/PC police & their controllers will leave you alone. Strength in numbers. It also has the added bonus of making the PC creeps who take pleasure in making the lives of ordinary Britons a misery, as sick as the proverbial parrot. What I can’t understand though is how did these village idiots manage to gain positions of power throughout the land? Is there a National Village Idiots Association or what? Oh I forgot. Common Purpose.
But, revenge is sweet. When we do have a BNP government may I be the first to propose a National Village Idiot Day where nationwide our PC fools can be dressed up as the jesters they undoubtedly are [complete with curly-toed shoes, pointy hats & multi-coloured sticks all with the traditional bells attached]. They can be paraded through towns & villages on this National Day which will serve as a warning for all time to ordinary folk of the dangers of putting PC dafties in charge of the country.
From the DT, maybe they all should display the flag -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/2022937/Hauliers-to-drive-message-home-with-fuel-protest-over-rising-cost.html
Bigglez is right of course. I’d like to add that the multicultural society has another purpose: an aggregate of minorities that have nothing in common and do not even WANT to live together creates fear and a need for protection. Therefore it becomes easy to impose a police state. Which is exactly what we have, and it’s only going to get worse.
I might add that none of this is restricted to England and the UK. The situation is possibly worse in France, and certainly in Belgium.
In Italy there is now a promising reaction. In Verona, a square where the local muslims wanted a mosque has been renamed the plaza Oriana Fallaci. Which, to those who know this wonderful woman, is a long overdue slap in the face of the hostile invaders.
Be careful BNP: Cameron is going to talk like the BNP, and govern like Blair. This is what Sarkozy did in France, talking like Le Pen or Mégret and governing like the dhimmi Chirac.
I believe the response has to be through nationalism indeed, strengthening our cultures, our identities, but also that this is too powerful an enemy for any European nation to tackle on its own.
What I read on this website reflects what many have realized throughout the EU (Western Eurabia). But even electoral systems are twisted, manipulated to prevent the indigenous people from having a representation.
I find it highly symbolic that the reaction - mild as it is so far - should come from Italy. I hope that this is not a feeble last desperate reaction, but the start of a Reconquista.
Hooray, FFL - so glad to have a French commentator on the books. It would be wonderful if all the various nationalist parties of Europe could link up, as this is obviously of Western and Europe-wide concern. We ought to be imitating the Italians (oops, nearly said Eye-ties, but, although that’s an affectionate nom de guerre to me, the PC mouthwash has caught me unawares) and saying to ourselves: “If they can do it, then why not us ….?”
Looking at the Eurovision Song Contest yesterday, I was not surprised that the UK contestants came last. The other songs seemed to revel in their European identity and it seemed significant that Russia, with its newly toned-up nationalism, came first.
I’ve just emailed the Wiltshire police to inform them that this coming bank holiday there will be hundreds of motorcyclists up on Box Hill in next door Surrey. Dozens of whom will be flying the Cross of St George. If they’re quick enough they can inform their buddies that it’ll be rich pickings for them.
The brain-washed bozos.
Thanks Sheriff. I don’t remember if I posted here before, but I have been a visitor to this website for a while.
I am quite sure that some nationalist parties at EU level are sharing ideas, but indeed cooperation should be extended to maximize efficiency. Note that there is a risk: for instance, the FN people (France) have refrained from going to Ireland ahead of their EU referendum, for fear that the PC/EU/dhimmi brigade might use it to discredit the No vote.
On the other hand, the EU parliament for instance, is a good place for nationalist parties to unite (useless as that parliament may be at present).
There is also the difficulty that nationalist/indentity forces are divided even within their respective countries. The BNP loses some of its potential electorate to UKIP. In France there are three parties, FN, MNR and MPF, and while some people create bridges the rivalries are enormous. I guess it’s the same all over the place. When will people understand that it’s time to regroup around common values for survival… this is URGENT!
In terms of Islamo-resistance, pan-European movements do exist. Most notably the SIOE. At the moment, just telling the truth IS a subversive act of resistance in our countries. There are lots of information websites in English and in other languages.
Difficult for an EU migrant like me not to be slightly uneasy about the BNP, when the BNP in power would bar me from getting a job in the UK that a Brit could do. However, I understand where they come from and there is a bigger emergency. I voted for the BNP in the London local elections, so I did play a small part in the success of Richard Barnbrook. Well I’m glad I did.
I have to say that in terms of knowledge and understanding about islam, Nick Griffin seems to be a top guy, right up there with Geert Wilders of the Netherlands. Bravo Nick Griffin for everything you have done, and the risks you have been taking.
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It’s not a case of ‘barring’ anyone, it’s a question of equal rights. Good post. - Ed.
We all fly the EU flag on our number plates. To be consistent, we ought to remove this in case a non-EU immigrant is offended. Just cover it up with PVC tape.
The deluded PC PC had probably just completed a Diversity Awareness course, which will have A) cost thousands B) took him away from front line duties and C) turned him into one of NuLab’s thought-controlled, politicised social workers instead of a police officer.
It is not surprising that the police have lost respect recently, even from utterly law-abiding citizens. We all know there are brave and dedicated officers, but in my experience and that of colleagues there are far too many narrow-minded, dull, unimaginative plods who see policing as a “them and us” situation. One of the most unappealing aspects of many police officers is that they have to have the final say, even when they know they are in the wrong.
A builder mate was stopped and when the officers couldn’t find anything wrong with his van, they emptied the entire contents onto the pavement and after still finding nothing wrong, drove off without an apology. I was stopped and my tax disc checked (this took 12 officers) and despite have a fully valid tax disc, I was kept waiting in the blazing heat for 45 minutes. Eventually they let me go but not before slapping a “producer” on me and checking my lights when I dared to complain.
I suspect that something similar happened in the case you report. The officer couldn’t find anything wrong with Ben’s car or documents, so telling him to remove the flag was his way of having the last say.
It is high time that the police started to behave like public servants rather than jumped-up nightclub bouncers, and there is only one party that can bring that about. That is one of the many reasons you have my support.
Is there an actul law that prohibits the use or the carrying/possession of any British flag? I dont think so. But if there is somebody please tell me. The lad should have challenged the Gestapo officer and asked under what law did he have the right to order him remove the flag at all.
I have always been under the impression that an officer of the law has to know and state what law you are breaking before you are arrested or whatever.
In Brick Lane some years ago on a Sunday I witnessed two police officers trying to move on two women who were busking. One of the women asked “under what law can you make us move”, the officers could not give a resonable reply and after a little argument they left the women in peace.
If we dont speak up/stand up for ourselves now then (where have I heard this before) future generations will be saying ….. “They let it happen”.
Should have asked what the offence actually was.
Most police really wouldn’t have a clue to what crime this flag is breaking - they make it up of course.
Having received any fine this bloke should then complain to IPC, seek a solicitor and sue the police force.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pGO3kbfisBE
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=qK
Dear Ed.,
Nationalist greetings! You kindly continue to publish my posts, some of which may be construed as quite confrontational, such as my post today, in which I air my views on the Police. I was intrigued to notice just now that my brief follow-up post has been removed. I suspect I know why this is so. After some time for reflection, I probably agree that it is wise to have removed it - if only for my own self-protection, sometimes hasty chap that I am. But I am speculating. Just to satisfy my curiosity (and probably to confirm my guess as to why the post has been removed), please let me know why my second post was published for some while, then removed?
Fraternally,
Askari.
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Wasn’t me guv. May have been a glitch, a similar thing has happened before and it left the poster with the wrong impression. If it was an edit, I daresay there will be an explanation forthcoming. Fraternally. - Ed.
How flaming ridiculous! Why shouldn’t Ben Smith or any other proud English person fly the St George’s flag in their car?… It is our country, so how dare the labour lot and the PC Brigade try to make people feel ashamed of the country we live in?
If immigrants who come to England don’t like our culture - and I have the misfortune to come across many just like that, then they should jump on the first plane out of here!
problem-reaction-solution-
http://www.thedebate.org/thedebate/iraq.asp
it all becomes clearer by the day..
I was told by a brand new plod that he could arrest me for what I was saying. I replied “I could nick you too, son”. You should have seen the confusion and fear in his eyes. Never forget that we still have the power of citizen’s arrest.
I would just like to tell you briefly things are developing in rural England. I live just outside Huntingdon,and as usual after the recent local elections,The Tories remained in control in Huntingdonshire District Council.
However last week it was announced in the local papers that a Moslem has been appointed as The Mayor of Huntingdon.
Now where I live is not yet I am pleased to say particularly enriched so it was very surprising that a member of what is still a small minority should be so honoured.
What was even more interesting though was the column in the local paper reporting this election,also reported that the appointment was a significant breakthrough.
Certainly a breakthrough, but for who one must ask!
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For the people of Huntingdonshire and their enrichment through the CP eu/Libalabcon/islamist axis we presume. That’s their decision. All we can do is advise them to the contrary. Ed
It hasn’t happened yet, but should the people of Huntingdon be embarrassed if The Flag of Islam should be seen flying over The Council Offices!
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Then perhaps they will reconsider. - Ed
Meanwhile -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1021811/Teenager-16-fined-littering—letting-balloon-charity-event.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1021784/100-year-old-bunting-tradition-halted-health-safety-red-tape.html
Bit by bit …………..
I have just sent this message to the Wiltshire police i suggest you all mail them and show your disgust!
“What kind of a police force do you have in Wiltshire? Having read about the young lad being stopped by one of your officers and threatened with a £30 fine for displaying a saint George flag on his parcel shelf.
You need to learn the law before you can enforce it. He had not broken any law yet the officer involved got above his station and insulted every English person who cares about that flag. if some one find the symbol offensive in this country then they should not be here.”
All this reminds me of another flag story, in my family history. It’s a bit long but extremely revealing. Please bear with me… I assure you it’s worth it.
It’s something that happened to my dad. We were bursting with laughter when he recounted it, in a restaurant in London one evening. Told the right way it’s hilarious, but the reality of it when it happened must have been terrifying to his dad, my grandfather.
You see, like most little boys of his time, my dad was impressed by the military and by flags.
That time, his father had told him off severely for walking with a little flag of his, behind a military parade.
Not that my grandfather had anything against our national flag, not at all…
But you see, this was in occupied France during WWII.
My dad, 9 or 10 years old, had been marching behind a regiment and flying the flag.
But it was a nazi regiment he was following… and he was flying a French flag!
No wonder my grandad was not happy… he must have been absolutely terrified!
As it happened, they didn’t turn around and see him… who knows what could have happened.
How is that surreal situation relevant to the story of Ben Smith?
Simple: if you are told not to fly your flag, it means that your country is occupied, and not by friendly visitors.
I’ve had a huge Crusader flag on my parcel shelf for many months now, with a smaller Union Jack in the front of my car.
After reading this, I’ve just added a St George Cross and Union Jack as bumper stickers to my wife’s car.
I’d be more than happy to take my £30 fine to court!
At the 2010 World Cup which England WILL qualify for, all english people should fly the St George’s Flag on the window’s of their house and car window’s. If you do so already like me - then fantastic - keep up the good work. And by 2010 Labour will be long gone and you never know the St George’s flag might even make an appearance over Downing Street.
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After the EU Constitreaty kicks in - which will be before 2010 - national flags will probably be history. The England team will be re-named the ‘9 Regions’. - Ed
I wonder if this copper was the same who banned Bradfords St.Georges day parade on H & S grounds?
While the ethnics march whenever and wherever they choose with no similar concern for the authorities.
I’d have told the copper to stick the flag where the sun dont shine btw, let him charge me £30 and see how it went in the Courts when i refused to pay it!
If Craig Briggs gives it a bit of thought,perhaps he will change his mind about wanting to join this pathetic excuse for a police force.What an insult to a brave young man to be told his countrys flag,which he’s just been risking life and limb for,may offend foreigners.Perhaps if the truth was known,it’s the POLICE themselves who find it offensive.May it please God to help put an end to this insanity.
I am not one for going against the law, but I would have refused to remove the flag and pay the resulting fine, and I’d have told the copper I would see him in court.
I would then refuse to have my trial held at a magistrate court, insisting instead that I take advantage of my right to trial-by-jury as laid out in the Magna Carta.
I would have then watched as the jury laughed the case out of court.
We need to work within the law and must stand against such silly restrictions placed upon us by the misguided, politically correct establishment.
Ben, dont get mad, get even, vote Bnp.
A great many first class contributions here. How many of our detractors could write with such passion and eloquence? Of everything I’ve read on this site over many months, this thread has truly convinced me of our need to spread the word as much as possible. I shall seek out a St George flag as soon as possible in the hope of getting a ‘pull’…maybe it’ll come from the same trouble-maker who pulled me recently for doing 33 mph through a tiny, deserted hamlet on a Tuesday afternoon.
FFL makes an excellent point: “Simple: if you are told not to fly your flag, it means that your country is occupied, and not by friendly visitors.”
No doubt flying the French Tricolour during Nazi occupation was an “offence”, and now we find the flag of St George is “offensive”, and so our “masters” the PC brigade have been identified as our enemies (as if we didn’t know already!).
And FFL, don’t be put off by a lot of anti-EU feelings. This does not mean we are anti-European. As a French citizen I have no problems with you coming here to work/live/visit without restriction. Same goes for other western Europeans. All I ask is that you remember and respect that we also have strong ties with Australia, New Zealand, Canada, and the US, and we do not want these ties eclipsed/eradicated by our Marxist masters in Brussels. A free Europe of co-operating nation-states is OK with me. We can build a strong European community without the unwanted, unelected, unaccountable, unnecessary layer of bureaucracy at an EU level. All their functions can be done by national parliaments working together. And each European country can keep its overseas ties, (which I equally respect). After all, it’s part of our heritage.
Crime and violence everywhere on city streets, much of it going unpunished (at least appropriately) but what do the police clamp down on? A motorist displaying the flag of St. George. Bugger what the immigrants think, they’ve had far too much to say for several years now - time to call a halt. Slightly off subject, but I urge BNP supporters to read the news item on the BBC (YES - THE BBC) website re a protest by the citizens of Camden in New South Wales, Australia, protesting at the local council’s proposal to allow a huge Muslim school to be built in their area - gladdens the heart.
Do they recruit Police from Mars now? It’s lunacy!
Brysea : Life on Mars?
Is it April 1st again aready!
Well I’m not quite sure why my last post was deleted, but I want to acknowledge RickTB’s message which is appreciated.
Now I’m going to buy a St George flag, and if someone asks me to take it off I’m going to complain that they want to stop me - as an immigrant - from integrating harmoniously into British society. :-)
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Wasn’t me guv. Now and again a post will simply disppear into Cyberspace without so much as a by-your-leave. - Ed.
Ah… thanks Ed for letting me know. Shame, it was a long post and I don’t have a copy. Most of it was a reply to Rick where I said anti-EU sentiment didn’t bother me: I hate the EU.
Not Europe, I love Europe ye olde Christian realm, but I hate the EU, Eurabia, the Brussels dictature as much as any sensible person with a sense of history, culture and identity.
And I voted against the constitution, but of course our votes count for… nothing… that wasn’t even a surprise.
Disgraceful…..
I tried to log on to the police website and my firewall alerted me to the fact that the police site tried to place spyware on my pc!
Ben, the prime minister of this country has stated that we should show our flag and be proud to do so. It is NOT racist or demeaning to immigrants. It is the flag of OUR NATION. Bet the PC copper would not tell a Scotsman or a Welshman to remove his flag!
Are any of our Scottish or Welsh or Irish friends having similar problems? Let’s find out.
I was quite angry to see this young man, with the cross of St. George on his parcel shelf, it was like a red rag to a bull for me. It should have been on the outside of the car on his aerial flying proudly in the wind!
I just been thinking, this lad had a patriotic flag in his car & the old bill give him an earful! Has anyone seen ‘Britains Got Talent’lately? There are union jacks flags everywhere, & theyre on tv, so the whole country can see them, why are there no complaints from immigrants about racist flags?
Its outrageous not to be able to display ones own country’s flag.
I’m buying my own flag today, as a point of protest.
Well my car is heavily clad in English paraphernalia. My local sports soccer shop are selling car kits, for £3.89! it includes, George Cross furry dice, aerial flag, window flags, window football kit, bumper magnets etc. I got 2, 1 for me, 1 for the missus. send PC Dibble to my town of Langwith, my post office has a St George Flag flying at full mast, as do many of the houses, see what answer he gets from 1 of the local ex miners when he tells them to remove there flag as its offensive! Sports Soccer also do a house kit, complete with bunting, flags, balloons etc. my house beared all of them on St Georges day, NO PLOD WILL STOP ME FLYING MY FLAG!