- John Bean

Immigration and the NHS


Immigration and the NHS

The articles below will help you understand the extent to which immigration is damaging the NHS and placing strain on the UK health facilities.

The time has come to end all immigration into the UK and also to deport all non-UK citizen immigrants who are resident in the UK with chronic medical conditions who have been allowed to stay in the UK and use NHS facilities.

This has to be done on the grounds that their presence in the country threatens the public health and is also diverting resources away from UK citizens who are entitled to use the NHS through their National Insurance contributions, and also due to the contributions of their ancestors whose sacrifices in two world wars led to the creation of the NHS.

AIDS

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4158/is_/ai_n12722823

There were 5,711 new diagnoses of HIV to the end of September last year, the highest since records began in 1987. The rest of the increase, from a total of 41,700 diagnosed cases in 2001, was due to sufferers’ blood being tested without their knowledge.

The number of new cases was 15 per cent up on the 4,982 diagnosed in 2001 and is expected to rise to 6,400 when all the reports are received. The rate of infection has more than doubled since 1997.

Two-thirds of the cases were acquired outside the UK, triggering renewed calls yesterday for immigrants to be screened. The cases’ overseas origin - most from sub-Saharan Africa - has changed the nature of the epidemic, with heterosexual cases now outnumbering homosexual/bisexual infections two to one.

Of the 1,850 cases of HIV acquired in the UK during 2002, about 1,500 - 80 per cent - were among gay and bisexual men and 275 among heterosexuals.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/background_briefings/aids/309025.stm

Heterosexually infected Africans are the second largest group affected by HIV in the country, according to the National Aids Trust.

More than a thousand are thought to have Aids and most children born with HIV are African.

TB

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=563410&in_page_id=1770

The rise in drug-resistant tuberculosis cases in the UK has been linked to immigration and inadequate attempts to control the disease.

The Health Protection Agency (HPA) found more TB cases are now resistant to any of the drugs used for initial treatment.

The incidence of TB in England, Wales and Northern Ireland is rising, with more than 8,000 cases reported in 2006.

Hepatitis B

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article3958418.ece

One in ten of the Chinese immigrant population in Britain is carrying the hepatitis B virus, a survey suggests, leading to calls for all migrants to be screened upon entering the country.

There has been a massive surge in migration to Britain from areas of high HBV prevalence and a report from the Hepatitis B Foundation UK estimates that more than 325,000 people here are chronically infected with the virus – nearly double the Department of Health’s 2002 estimate of 180,000. Most people infected will eventually clear the virus from their bodies, but about 5-10 per cent become chronic hepatitis B carriers, often without even knowing it.

Although the prevalence of chronic hepatitis B (CHB) in the resident population is only about 0.3 per cent, 96 per cent of new cases are imported by people who acquired the infection before coming to Britain.

Of 89 Chinese immigrants screened by the Chinese National Healthy Living Centre in London, 10 per cent were found to be hepatitis B positive.

There is a particular risk of transmission between children in playgroups, schools and nurseries as the virus is considered 100 times more infectious than HIV. At present in the NHS there is no requirement for doctors or nurses from overseas to be tested for infection and in 2003 alone, 700 doctors and about 6,000 nurses came to Britain from areas with a high incidence of hepatitis B.

Maternity Services


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6494651.stm

The BBC has been told the influx of eastern Europeans to the UK has led to a massive rise in pregnancies and abortion requests in some areas.

Health professionals warn that some antenatal services are stretched to breaking point.

More than 500,000 eastern Europeans have migrated to the UK following the accession of eight new member states to the EU in 2004.

In one GP practice in Luton in Bedfordshire, 400 new patients register every month - and 80% are eastern European.

A decade ago one baby in eight (12.8%) was delivered to a foreign-born mother, figures from the Office of National Statistics show that in 2006 there were 154,000 births to foreign-born women, making up about one in five (21.9%) of the total births in the UK.

The number of births to European-born mothers other than from the UK and Ireland increased by 87% between 2001 and 2006 to 27,000 - almost 4% of all UK births.

While the number of babies born to British mothers has fallen by 44,000 a year since the mid-nineties, the figure for babies born to foreign mothers has risen by 64,000, the BBC reported.This 77% increase has pushed the overall birthrate to its highest level for 26 years.

The cost to the NHS of providing maternity services for foreign-born mothers has risen to more than £350 million a year, it has been reported. Record levels of immigration have pushed the cost up by £200 million in the past 10 years, according to an analysis by the BBC.

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Discussion

36 comments for “Immigration and the NHS”

  1. But but but if we all vote BNP then Nick Griffin will wave an evil magic wand and thousands of non-British doctors and nurses will suddenly vanish before even clocking off and thousands will die in their beds!!!

    Read the BNP manefes…oh…OK…as you were.

    Posted by hrhdtr | May 21, 2008, 9:18 am
  2. You don’t mention the high incidence of diabetes amongst Asians, oh yes and the high incidence of congenital deformities and illnesses caused by Asian inbreeding. Ah diversity - it’s so wonderful.

    Posted by iiwn | May 21, 2008, 10:01 am
  3. To hrhdtr
    We only need thousands of non-British doctors and nurses because we have to look after thousands of non-British people bringing non-British infection into our Country

    Posted by Allwhite | May 21, 2008, 10:37 am
  4. Immigration = overpopulation = disease and starvation.

    Posted by Bigglez | May 21, 2008, 10:47 am
  5. Now, if someone in England contracted, say, AIDs or TB from an immigrant,would that victim be able to pursue an action for negligence against the government because it had failed to take reasonable precautions to safeguard the wellbeing of its citizens in that it had failed to check that the aformentioned immigrant was free from disease, etc? Perhaps the government would also be held to have breached the victim’s human rights by exposing him/her to the obvious risks which would flow from allowing carriers of diseases to enter our country. It is not as though the government is unaware of the problem. It is unfortunate that one cannot prosecute them for what appears to be gross negligence and congenital stupidity (or can one?).

    -

    Good point, Pilgrim.
    You can forward to enquiries@bnp.org.uk and ask it be passed on - Ed

    Posted by Pilgrim | May 21, 2008, 10:55 am
  6. I agree with Allwhite. We only need thousands of non-British doctors and nurses because we have to look after many thousands of non-British people bringing non-British infections into our Country. We shouldn’t steal doctors and nurses from other countries because their countries will be short of them.

    Posted by justme24 | May 21, 2008, 11:11 am
  7. To Pilgrim:
    Yeah, this is a very valid point especially seeing as animals cannot enter this country without first being tested for Rabies. So, based on this surely all high risk foreigners should be screened ?
    This in itself would place yet more burden on the NHS, another good reason to stop immigration.

    Posted by nick.p@zoom.co.uk | May 21, 2008, 11:15 am
  8. We do not need Muslim doctors. Check out the constitution of the Muslim Doctors’ and Dentists’ Association at http://mdda.org.uk/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=28&Itemid=57

    Item 2.1.4. “To promote the preservation and protection of the good health of Muslims in the United Kingdom.”

    No mention of preservation and protection of the health of kuffars! Obviously the Koran (”kill the unbelievers wherever you find them”) trumps the Hippocratic Oath.

    Posted by Artorius | May 21, 2008, 11:43 am
  9. My father was a Normandy veteran. He was at nearly all the major artillery battles including the Faliase Gap, Caen, Arnhiem and the Rhine crossing, the Battle of the Bulge and many smaller battles. He helped liberate Belsen and was one of the very first to find the horrors. He was often out on his own behind enemy lines setting up equipment under very heavy fire. His troop lost a very high proportion of personnel and out of the few that survived many ended up with commendations. I believe he was mentioned in dispatches on several occasions himself. But he was never one to make a fuss.

    When he was taken into Northampton General Hospital for tests at the age of eighty five years he was literally thrown on to the bed and left where he lay. His legs were left trapped under the bottom metal rails and none of the nurses seemed to care. They were mostly African nurses at the time. Mother was enraged by the nurses attitude towards him at the time.

    It turned out that the reason he was in agony was that he had an abscess on his spine which ruptured after the manhandling and there he died a couple of days later. All he had at the end was one uncaring nurse opening the curtain up to say “he’s gone then” and off she went.

    Some of his last words to me were “this bloody well hurts but at least I have morphine. Just think of all those young men that I saw that didn’t get it and what pain they must have been in and no one cares”. You see his last thoughts were of all his comrades and their sacrifices and suffering and how they had been betrayed since.

    My father became a British National Party Member in his eighties and wished he had joined many years before. He knew what the traitors had done to our once proud nation.

    I must say the British Legion did him proud at his funeral service. My how the Last Post makes the eyes water even the young cadets that played the bugles were in tears.

    Posted by Gamlegorm The White | May 21, 2008, 11:48 am
  10. Third world countries are not renowned for their good hygiene and yet we are told that, but for third world recruits, the National Health Service would crumble and fail. I would suggest that the new “hospital” diseases we are now fighting a rearguard battle with are a direct result of poor hygiene practised by third-world immigrants who make up such a large number of NHS workers. Are they trained in correct procedures and followed up to make sure they conform or would that be perceived as “racist”?

    Posted by SheriffofNottingham | May 21, 2008, 12:02 pm
  11. hrhdtr - his piece was meant as irony.

    Posted by baz | May 21, 2008, 12:24 pm
  12. My local Hospital in outer London has a patient ratio of at least 60 40 in favour of non-natives. It is also bottom in the league tables for cleanliness. Top of the league for MRSA & C Diff. When the day comes that I need Hospital care I feel that I may be enriched to death. So I’ll take my chances and see a Quack.

    Posted by baz | May 21, 2008, 12:31 pm
  13. AIDS please, or A.I.D.S. - it’s an acronym, not a possessive.

    There have been cases involving women supposedly infected by AIDS, or HIV, but the issue os complicated by evidence that AIDS is a generic word for a collection of diseases, and doesn’t exist in its own right. A lot of Africans have e.g. malaria and test positive on the so called HIV tests. It’s why the huge death toll that AIDS was expected to bring never happened, and why African populations are exploding despite the AIDS ‘experts’ expectations.

    Gamlegorm, I sympathise. I doubt this is any consolation, but white medicos can be hopeless too; I could give an example, but I won’t as after all it’s too late.

    As for diabetes and deformities, don’t forget inbreeding may presumably cause emotional defects - sudden rages, violence and fury suggest themselves here…

    Posted by RW | May 21, 2008, 12:34 pm
  14. This is highly worrying, the police will also come into contact with these people on a daily basis putting them at danger of contracting these diseases, remember the police officers that were bitten by the illegal immigrant when they were driving him to the police station. What measures are they taking here are they going to have to muzzle these parasites.

    Posted by supersquats | May 21, 2008, 1:04 pm
  15. This is rather unpleasant but I feel that it has to be said. The NHS is replete with Muslim doctors, nurses and ancillary staff. All of them are obliged to follow strictly the precise instructions laid down in the Koran regarding post-defaecatory personal cleansing.

    Without going fully into the vomit-inducing details, according to a former Muslim acquaintance who explained it to me, it involves pouring cold water down the small of the back from a jug which does not have a handle (why no handle I don’t know, nor did he but that was the Koranic specification).

    The rest of the process involves the use of the fingers of the left hand, with no soap, presumably because when the paedophile Prophet wrote his Islamic Handbook for World Conquest, soap did not exist.

    The result is that whatever pathogenic bacteria, or viruses, there are in the gut of any practising Muslim are transferred, initially to the fingers of the left hand and are thereafter deposited on every surface touched, including any surgical wound on a post-operative patient.

    There are thousands of Muslims working in the NHS. There are thousands of deaths of hospital patients annually from hospital-acquired infections. No connection between the two, of course.

    -
    Fact-My cousin just came back from a cruise which included a stay in a 5 star Turkish hotel for one night. She was appalled that the “public” lavatories in the hotel had NO toilet paper (just a short length of hose-pipe), and that there was NO soap for hand-washing. AND she was charged for going in to use them-Ed

    Posted by Noel | May 21, 2008, 1:37 pm
  16. The NHS was once the jewel in the crown for the British workers but not any more. Although I have been treated OK when I needed help, I also hear a lot of horror stories. I hope I live long enough to see a BNP government sort this country out.

    Posted by whistle | May 21, 2008, 2:11 pm
  17. Our Generals are fighting to retain our British Armed forces–The Royal Navy, the British army, the Royal Air Force–you need to look at the Bigger Picture, Generals. Pretty soon you will not have a British anything.

    Posted by royalecraig | May 21, 2008, 2:24 pm
  18. For what the NHS is costing it is bad value for money, we pay in they take out, if it was restricted to the people who are entitled to use it, we would have a World beater.

    Posted by Englishman first | May 21, 2008, 3:33 pm
  19. royalecraig your comment is a bit off the subject but our too stupid Government are not that stupid. Without our country having a suitably equipped and strong armed force, there can be no possibility of a coup d’etat taking place. I believe they know that with their pattern of behaviour, this is a possibility. Even the top brass of the military must be able to see the light, and know that a coup could return this country to the status quo - e.g. Britain for the real British. This may be a bit drastic but much quicker than it is going to take the BNP. Still, we can all dream but at least we do have the BNP.

    -
    There ain’t going to be no military coup, chaps! Let’s face it, the Armed Forces are a shadow of their previous numbers, and all personnel that can be handed a gun and a pack are right now out of the country, mostly fighting illegal wars. Britain, right now, is effectivelyt defenceless!-Ed

    Posted by JohnBavaria | May 21, 2008, 3:34 pm
  20. What could the government be thinking of or is it more EU interference? It is 60 years since the birth of NHS general practice but new Government plans could affect your surgery and put at risk:

    The full range of services at your local surgery
    The quality and continuity of your care
    Being treated by GPs who put patients before shareholders
    The very existence of some local NHS surgeries

    Sign the petition. http://www.supportyoursurgery.org.uk/

    Posted by bertie bert | May 21, 2008, 3:39 pm
  21. The NHS was set up by us for us. It’s our system–the first and only system like it. Who gave anyone the right to open it up to the world, free of charge? If we charged foreigners, we could pay our doctors and nurses more. I cannot understand the reason that foreigners get free NHS treatment. Years ago I was involved in an accident and had to pay emergency fees. A friend of mine came back from South Africa because the cost of medical treatment was too much. He was staying for 12 months but returned home within a couple of weeks. BNP 4 me=common sense, ASAP please.

    Posted by Warriorbrave | May 21, 2008, 4:30 pm
  22. Noel,
    Presumably if you eat food from Muslim-staffed restaurants and takeaways you’ll get the same ‘extra ingredients’ on anything they’ve touched.

    -
    Yum! Chocolate sprinkles! -Ed

    Posted by Artorius | May 21, 2008, 4:34 pm
  23. Why don’t we charge for any medical treatment these people receive from the NHS? If any of us is lucky enough to be able to afford to go anywhere in the world, we are told that we must have insurance to cover any medical costs. Surely if WE have to have medical insurance (even if we are only going to Spain for a long weekend), wouldn’t it be a start to tell all migrants that one of the criteria for entering this country is that they must have adequate health insurance, for themselves and their family, therefore increasing the amount of revenue for the NHS, to employ more staff to cope with the demand?

    Posted by Jeeves | May 21, 2008, 4:47 pm
  24. For the indigenous Brits, having no referendum on the EU, and no say on the amount of immigration coming into this small island, must surely be illegal. We MUST have rights that are being ignored. What is the BNP’s view in this?

    -

    Same as yours, and its a fact - Ed

    Posted by englishpride | May 21, 2008, 5:36 pm
  25. When we had the Foot and Mouth epidemic no time was lost in eradicating the disease. Rabies so far is rarely heard of. So it’s OK to re-introduce diseases (via our ‘enrichers’) that were, once upon a time, well under control and posed no real immediate threat? Question is, what would the government do if our ‘enrichers’ had foot and mouth?

    Posted by Busdriver | May 21, 2008, 6:29 pm
  26. This is even better news for you all–There are rare HIV sub type `O`strains in parts of Africa that are not detectable by any modern Elisa or Pcr testing. How many new Hiv infections have we really got now and how many blood Banks are now becoming infected? I must be careful not to say anymore as it might be seen as discrimination against the new and much better, deadly, untraceable Virus. More enrichment to come I’m afraid.

    Posted by topmarqueswales | May 21, 2008, 6:34 pm
  27. I went to my local hospital for tests. Talking to a fellow waiting, he told me of his friend who went in for a knee op. and died. Think about it–a knee op. When my time came to have a minor op, I cancelled. The risk I considered was too great. I also went into hospital after a persistent cough for an x-ray. One woman was doing all the work with 4 chattering girls in the office. It never used to be like this. And all the Doctors were foreign. It has also stated in the press British Doctors and nurses cannot get work. SO WHY DO WE NEED IMMIGRANT STAFF?

    Posted by Brysea | May 21, 2008, 6:37 pm
  28. You didn’t mention dentistry. I’ve just been quoted £850.00 (about) for some necessary work on two teeth. I can’t get a National Health dentist although, of course, any foreign Fred, Joe or Jemima can.

    Posted by redwhite@cross | May 21, 2008, 7:59 pm
  29. On the subject of Chocolate sprinkles here’s…

    ANOTHER CASE OF MUSLIM FECAL JIHAD
    “42 year old, Sahnoun Daifallah, appeared in front of a magistrate, on charges he squirted a “foul-smelling” substance, later determined to be a mixture of faeces and urine, over frozen chips and wine bottles at a Tesco in Gloucester - he then went on to shower and ruin 706 children’s books at Waterstones in Cirencester, Gloucs. Not quite satisified with showering his human liquid waste concoction over just two stores, Mr Daifallah proceeded to the Air Balloon pub where, after making offensive comments to the barmaid, he proceeded to sprinkle more faeces and urine all over the pub food.

    … There appears to be a nasty and disgusting pattern emerging - muslim men conducting a body waste Jihad.

    Such body fluids would be considered hazardous waste in a medical setting. With the numbers of serious and often fatal diseases, ie: polio and hepatitis listing two of many, that can be carried by human waste - there needs to be much harsher penalties for these fecal jihadists.”

    http://uppompeii1.uppompeii.com/2008/05/20/another-case-of-muslim-fecal-jihad.aspx

    Posted by Artorius | May 21, 2008, 9:19 pm
  30. I’ve never felt so “ENRICHED” in all my life!To think,if it wasn’t for unlimited immigration,[lets forget the term illegal,as it's ALL legal and deliberate],we would never have had the pleasure of all these diseases like the return of TB,[AN INCURABLE STRAIN],HIV,MRSA,and who knows what has yet to rear its head.Is there any other country on Earth that has been totally betrayed by its ELECTED government in the same way as Britain? Why,if we are the only country to be so betrayed,are all the worlds press and news media not screaming it from their headlines?Because they’re all in it together for some hateful ungodly reason.

    Posted by gyukcas | May 22, 2008, 12:56 am
  31. I agree with the posts which point out that we only need foreign medical staff because we have so many immigrants, overburdening the Health service by weight of numbers. I also agree with Artorius who states quite frankly that we particularly dont need Muslim doctors.
    But of course - just my luck - the two kindest and most patient, doctors who tended to me during my last lengthy stay in hospital, were both foreign born. One was a Muslim doctor from Pakistan with a public school accent, and the other a black west African. Some of the nastiest, most sluttish and uncaring nurses I’ve come to know have of course been . . . English.
    I wont allow these experiences to overturn my belief that we should n’t offer free public health to the World. Nor will I alter my view that public health posts should go to indigenous British staff only.
    Under a BNP government, immigration would cease, and the need to test new arrivals for filthy diseases would not arise. Under a BNP government, several millions of foreigners would return to their native lands, encouraged by the generous financial incentives we would offer them - incentives financed by the billions we would save by ending our payments to the EU.

    Posted by Askari | May 22, 2008, 5:20 am
  32. Noel, very good points made by you, on the same theme, anyone fancy a curry ?
    June.

    Posted by June | May 22, 2008, 8:15 am
  33. @ Artorius

    The funny thing is that “a possible motive is yet to be discovered”.

    Posted by SheriffofNottingham | May 22, 2008, 11:25 am
  34. ………

    —-

    Perhaps you are overreacting, Winston. - Ed.

    Posted by Winston | May 22, 2008, 6:01 pm
  35. I’m not so sure but the moderators decisons are final - I respect that and always will.

    Posted by Winston | May 22, 2008, 7:28 pm
  36. To use the NHS you should be in either of the following catagories:

    From the indiginous british population or for any foreigner’s who want to use the NHS they will have to have worked in this country for 5 years. Otherwise they should have to pay for any treatment they receive.

    Posted by EnglandxChick | May 22, 2008, 10:02 pm

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