According to one Tory MP who claims to be “speaking out” – “We need to clean up Westminster politics and take action to restore faith in our political system”.
So what exactly does this Honourable Member suggest - we wonder?
As it happens he tells us:-
“First, Speaker Martin must step down. Perhaps not immediately, but he needs to set a date for his departure now”.
“Second, MPs need to choose a Speaker who understands that there is a problem with Westminster politics - and is willing and able to see something done about it.”
“Finally, we need to scrap the ‘gentlemen’s club’ rules used to run our legislature, and make Westminster politicians much more directly accountable to the voters.”
About as weak as dishwater! Just about what you would expect from a Tory politician, we think you will agree!
We, however, have three suggestions of our own!
Firstly, immediate public access to ALL extant records concerning MPs allowances and expenses claims and receipts.
Secondly, a major Fraud Squad investigation into the claiming of public money by “Honourable Members” (past as well as present) – having the intention of prosecuting all involved in activity reasonably construed as fraudulent and recovering all such monies, plus accrued interest, fraudulently claimed.
Finally, the replacement of the current fraudulent system of expenses and allowances claiming by one that is independent of The House, wholly transparent and rigorously audited - based on the twin principles of “no receipt – no reimbursement” and “thou shalt not profit from the taxpayer”!
As an aside, we wonder why it is that this gentleman attacks Speaker Martin, a Labour man, rather than his party leader, Dave “Two-Homes” Cameron - who is, as it happens, no stranger when it comes to claiming our taxmoney!
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Its a con! …. and it just had to come from a Tory, haha! I’ve no faith in any investigation and/or proposals put forward by any dishonourable member. Lablibcons you’ve had your day … we want you all out!
“Speaker Martin must step down. Perhaps not immediately …”
Dontcha just love it?
By all means, the fellow must do the honourable thing - just as soon as we’ve all had time to cover our tracks!
You still not finished with that shredder, m’lud?
Next weeks “hypocrite of the week award”?
I wonder who put him up to it? ;-)
Anyway, better that comrade Martin stays put for a while. The stench is driving more people out of their room to take refuge in ours.
I think the general consensus is that they’ll all miraculously come out as squeaky clean as they did with the cash for honours fiddles. They will never be accountable for anything while they run/own the law!
Too late for tinkering, the whole lot are tainted and nothing less than radical reform will do. Hard to see how this can be done without a major upheaval – the old mob must GO. Reform, not just of the expenses and allowances gravy train, but other issues too, including:
The electoral system
Time to consider a proportional system in which political parties are represented in parliament according to the percentage of votes they receive overall.
Postal Voting
Currently ‘worthy of a banana republic’ the system should be scrapped if it cannot be rendered absolutely foolproof.
Parliamentary Debates
Akin to a childish debating society (‘hear! hear! hear!’ ‘point of order, Mr Speaker!’ ‘My honourable friend’ and all the rest of the silly claptrap) the current system is grotesquely flawed. There is no point at all in reasoned argument as (a) there’s usually no one there to hear it and (b) even if those MPs who do bother to turn up find themselves swayed by what a speaker says they are prevented from voting accordingly by party whips. Gordon Brown’s cynical and lying assurance that a referendum wasn’t required on the EU Treaty as it would be debated in Parliament ‘line by line’ when in reality there were rarely more than a dozen MP’s present whilst it passed through the House is a prime example of how ludicrously irrelevant Parliament has become. It is now an affront to democracy and a disgrace to our Nation. Parliament is in dire need of radical reform if public confidence is ever to be restored in it.
A future BNP will have its hands full with so much to do but we have the resolve and the commitment to make these things happen.
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Most of us would probably agree with that, Kentish Man, although a certain amount of protocol should be preserved, and MPs should continue to at least address each other in a civilised manner, don’t you think? Edited a bit for length. - Ed.
All the politicians of the ‘main’ parties (i.e. the establishment) have lined their pockets at the expense of us for long enough. They are nothing more than thieves, the only difference being they have manipulated and concocted laws which protect them from reproach.
As Kentish Man points out, A future BNP government - not so far into the future I now think - will indeed have its hands full but it will, I’m sure, need no prompting
when it comes to addressing one another in a civilised manner. To a party with so much collective intelligence, knowledge and integrity, civilised behaviour comes naturally, as a visit to any BNP branch meeting will demonstrate.
As for the greedy, ignorant, oafish denizens of what can, at present, best be described as a bear garden, let them be consigned to the same Outer Hebridean island prison which I suggested in an earlier post elsewhere for the graduates of Common Purpose and their “useful idiot” apparatchiks. Let them gaze across the choppy waters at the land they tried - and failed - to destroy, while the BNP government gets on with the massive task of repairing the damage.
DEAR ED, just a word to say that the Virgin home page show the latest Yougov poll as Conservative 44%, Labour 28%, Liberals 17%. I made a comment that it sounds like a fiddle–the BNP would have got at least 20% of the vote. The figures just do not add up. They would not post it, must be too near the truth.
What the BNP say is correct. However if we continue with the Lisbon treaty, then there is no point in Parliament anyway as these so-called politicians will be surplus to requirement. If this Euro madness continues they should get rid of all the politicians and sell the Houses of parliament and all its assets. They could turn it into a luxury asylum centre–or maybe a giant casino.
“First, Speaker Martin must step down. Perhaps not immediately, but he needs to set a date for his departure now”.
My opinion: Well yes that would be good start.
“Second, MPs need to choose a Speaker who understands that there is a problem with Westminster politics - and is willing and able to see something done about it.”
My opinion: How about someone that is independent of all major parties, example someone that not in lab/con/lib and therefore has no affiliation to them.
“Finally, we need to scrap the ‘gentlemen’s club’ rules used to run our legislature, and make Westminster politicians much more directly accountable to the voters.”
My opinion: Agreed, but we need much more as the news team has announced.
Kentish Man 7:09 pm. “Gordon Brown’s cynical and lying assurance that a referendum wasn’t required on the EU Treaty as it would be debated in Parliament ‘line by line’ when in reality there were rarely more than a dozen MP’s present whilst it passed through the House is a prime example of how ludicrously irrelevant Parliament has become.”
My opinion: All the major politicians are bought and paid for so they were going to pass it anyway…thats the EU Marxist Plan. These people, I wont say men, are chosen at an earlier time to be leaders and future leaders, no one gets in who has not been chosen by them. The same can be applied to the leadership of the United States, no one gets in without their approval. We know their game but we don’t do anything constructive to put an end to it.
My opinion: The whole system is corrupt and the will of the people totally ignored, we don’t matter.
Nostradamus 6:11 am. “if we continue with the Lisbon treaty,then there is no point in Parliament anyway as these so-called politicians will be surplus to requirement.”
My opinion: if the Lisbon Treaty is ratified it wont matter one iota and the UK will be finished, consigned to history and a new slavery paradigm will emerge and it will be our fault for not taking positive action when we could have.
The comments by Douglas Carswell MP sum up the moribund state of the Tory party. It is risable that these gentle and ineffectual stirrings designed purely to raise the profile of a very ordinary member can be portrayed by the Daily Mail as a rallying cry by ‘one fearless Tory’.
If the Daily Mail cannot see how effetely the Tories have merged themselves into a kind of indistinct ‘almost-New-Labour’ party, and how consequently pointless it is to try to effect any change by voting Conservative, let us hope that some of their readers can on May 1st.
An extremely intelligent and well written article. You make some excellent points. Welcome to the main stream. Best of luck in May and beyond.
“Second, MPs need to choose a Speaker who understands that there is a problem with Westminster politics - and is willing and able to see something done about it.”
Catmar Post 5th line - My opinion: How about someone that is independent of all major parties, example someone that not in lab/con/lib and therefore has no affiliation to them.
Several names immediately come to mind; Nick Griffin, Joe Priestley, John Bean, Lee Barnes, Martin Wingfield, Simon Darby, Donna Bailey and many, many more. In between BNP commitments of course.
On second thoughts though, all the dishonourable members would probably be too scared to ever turn up, for fear of being humiliated or much worse.
When did an establishment politician last say anything that had any substance to it? In fact the only thing that they do commit themselves to is maintenance of the status quo. I think they are skating on thin ice and the cracks are starting to show. One day they’ll go through.
Too little, too late. If anyone has a grain of sense they will never again trust the word of an ‘establishment’ politician. There is nothing ‘honourable’ about those who currently occupy the Government and Opposition benches in Parliament.