AllowancesGate

Allowancesgate - If they have nothing to hide then why are they so determined to hide that nothing?


We reported yesterday on how parasitic MPs were using the Information Commissioner’s insistence that MPs should disclose the address of their second homes as a cynical excuse to deny the public the right to see how OUR money is being abused for personal gain – a process many consider to be fraudulent. But why should MPs’ second home addresses remain private? After all, every year thousands of election candidates put their private addresses in the public domain as part and parcel of the electoral process! And, indeed, why shouldn’t the voter know where his MP lives – they, after all, are supposed to be representing their constituents and should expect contact with them? If MPs – who are public figures – want privacy, then they should never have entered politics in the first place and should resign without further ado!

But, of course, none of this has anything to do with privacy but everything to do with hundreds of dishonest MPs and former MPs conspiring to keep their dishonesty from inquisitive eyes and, in so doing, delaying the much deserved public opprobrium that will inevitably come with disclosure.

Sooner or later the truth will out and when that day comes the demand will not be for further disclosure but for repayment and criminal charges to be brought!

As one media source puts it: “Each member with a seat outside London can claim up to £23,000 in Additional Cost Allowance – and the total amount claimed is already made public each year.

The current controversy is over the breakdown of that total; how much is going in mortgage interest, and how much on a nice new kitchen. It’s our money, we already know the total spend, so why shouldn’t we know a bit more of the detail?

MPs’ travel claims were initially only published as a total, but eventually the authorities caved in to pressure and published a breakdown of road, rail and air claims. The principle is similar, so why not do the same with the ACA?

The real problem lies with the Information Commissioner’s curious insistence that MPs’ addresses should be published. They, understandably, complain that their security is thus put at risk.

Yet the public want to know what their money is spent on, rather more than whether it goes to number 25 or number 37a down the road. A sensible answer would be to leave out the addresses and publish the rest.”

Further examples of “Allowancesgate” news coverage this morning may be found here and here .

As an aside we draw readers attention to the London Evening Standard’s article which includes the revelation: “David Cameron was among MPs who said they were furious with the decision to spend taxpayers’ money opposing the public’s right to know.” So Cameron was “furious” was he? But not “furious” enough, as far as we can ascertain, to disclose the detail surrounding his £100,000 or thereabouts, worth of Additional Claims Allowance (ACA) claimed between Q1 2001 and Q1 2007!

Meanwhile, whilst MPs fiddle, shredded documents continue to burn!

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14 comments for “Allowancesgate - If they have nothing to hide then why are they so determined to hide that nothing?”

  1. If they have nothing to hide then why are they so determined to hide that nothing? Beacuse they are corrupt and rotten to the core! No wonder the BNP is gaining ground every day!

    Posted by CallMeDave | March 26, 2008, 9:45 am
  2. http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23464269-details/Cameron+attacks+Speaker%27s+%27shameless%27+%C2%A3100%2C000+court+bid+to+keep+MPs%27+expenses+secret/article.do

    says:

    “Nick Robinson on the Ten O’Clock News said that had been told ‘by senior sources on all sides of the Commons’ that “some MPs might well have to retire from politics, so embarrassed would they be if what they spent, and what they’d spent it on, was publicly revealed.”"

    If they claim expenses the Con-way,they should be prosecuted, not retired.

    Posted by Mister J | March 26, 2008, 9:52 am
  3. And these same people chasing the disabled of this country and calling THEM scroungers!

    Posted by Si | March 26, 2008, 10:11 am
  4. The whole thing stinks. Derek CONway for example should have been thrown out as an MP straight away and prosecuted, never mind now being an independent.

    Any profits made from the sale of second homes when sold should be paid back to the tax payer. As reported with the police sitting on their hands, well get off them and start some investigations!!

    Posted by darkmatter | March 26, 2008, 10:51 am
  5. Mister J makes a very interesting point in all of this. All these parasites have to actually fear it would seem, is having to retire from politics - not being prosecuted (as they should be) for being so dishonest with taxpayers’ money. They think they are a law unto themselves in so many things. Look at Parliamentary Privilege for example; they can say what they like about who they like in Parliament and they are protected from the law. It’s all wrong. If they have not got the nerve and their facts right, to say it outside of Parliament, then they should keep their greedy mouths shut.

    I think this second home address thing was deliberately put in to cause the present, last minute appeal to the High Court. The IC wanted to appear tough and slipped it in for no other reason. They were probably in collusion with the parasites themselves with it all. Too simple to now take the address part of it out, of course. We could not really care about the actual ACA address but just you watch, it will be all or nothing, the devious swine they all are.

    What is the point of a total cost of expenses figure, without a detailed breakdown of where the money actually went? It’s absolutely meaningless - and they know it. I’ve just watched Frank Field pathetically banging on that this detailed expenses list should not be ‘retrospective’ - also totally meaningless. Forearmed is forewarned and the lying, cheating parasites would merely get away with their past crimes and cover up their future ones more carefully - or by awarding themselves a whopping, big pay increase, the scheming swines they all are. They really should all be put up against a wall and shot.

    Posted by Winston | March 26, 2008, 11:22 am
  6. A fantastic article BNP - it really is a pleasure visiting the BNP website, reading the news and comments from decent British people.
    Its working you know, too… you can almost smell the fear escaping from Westminster! …and no wonder eh … almost EVERY sitting MP, has questions to answer. I said a few months ago on this website… the British lion is stirring from his sleep and the roar will be mighty!
    I dont think im wrong. Come on Britain .. lets take OUR Country back … VOTE BNP.

    -

    Thanks RWB, we aim to please ;-)
    And thanks for the encouragement.

    If I may, … RWB please try to leave out the capitals and adjust for grammar etc.
    It’s not a criticism, my friend. It’s just that it takes us ages to correct.
    Many thanks. - Ed

    Posted by RedWhiteAnBlue | March 26, 2008, 12:23 pm
  7. Thanks, RWB ;-) - Ed

    Posted by RedWhiteAnBlue (response to Ed) | March 26, 2008, 12:52 pm
  8. Do you not think that it would go down well with the voters, if BNP policy would state that all domiciles bought an paid for by ACA would be returned to the exchequer after use. then the MPs would not make any gain from ther use. Any MPs that have sold on these properties would be compelled to forfeit the gain.

    Posted by baz | March 26, 2008, 2:45 pm
  9. Radio 4 interviewed some parliamentary staff a few weeks back about MPs’ salaries and ACA. It may have been on The Week in Westminster but I don’t remember the details, only the gist of the argument. The argument runs that most MPs ‘work very hard’ and could choose to work in the private sector where they would receive much higher salaries they are so public-spirited on our behalf, you see..

    The argument therefore concludes that MPs are fully entitled to all the perks they receive etc. Which doesn’t explain why Westminster’s ‘finest’ are apparently now scurrying around like moles to cover up the details of these perks. I wonder what they will do when the EU Reform Treaty comes fully into force and they find themselves out of a job and all those ACAs? Maybe they are hoping for handsome EU ‘golden handshakes’ at taxpayers’ (i.e. our) expense as usual.

    More likely, they will suddenly discover that the EU is a ‘golden garrotte’ like it always has been - who’d trust a traitor, anyway (EU-Islamophiles G. Brown, R. Williams, Red Ken etc. take note)?

    And perhaps wish they’d jumped ship into the BNP* when they had the chance.

    *Depending on whether or not the Party has a standing order to ‘repel all potential ‘old gang’ MP boarders!’

    (I could understand that the BNP wouldn’t trust traitors, either.)

    Posted by Alanorei | March 26, 2008, 4:24 pm
  10. Until relatively recently, my response to the common complaint that “They’re only in it for what they can get” was that they were doing a very difficult job and that all ‘top-jobs’ have their perks. Not now! I think those complainers had it right all along! They’re milking the system and spending so much time and money creating a haven for themselves that they lose touch with the real world the rest of us have to suffer; even the third in line to the throne has said he doesn’t like England any more!

    Posted by Mr Average | March 26, 2008, 4:57 pm
  11. Today’s Daily Express carries a hard-hitting editorial entitled ‘PM’s claims are insult to battered Middle Britain’ and goes on to list Brown’s disastrous mishandling of just about every aspect of social and economic activity in the country, finishing with:

    ‘Mr Brown is behaving like a slimy suitor trying to worm his way back into a maiden’s good books after continually letting her down. His transparent insincerity renders his performance cringeworthy. Whatever he says or does now, Middle Britain has found him out. It will not be fooled again’.

    All this could have been lifted straight out of the pages of this website. The only thing missing is the customary ending ‘Vote BNP’!

    There are signs that newspapermen are at last picking up on the sea change which is taking place in British politics and the rejection of old Lib/Lab/Con gang by the British public which is fed up to the back teeth with the whole rotten, useless set-up. They know there is a massive swing to the BNP, evidence of which is plain to see with the popularity of this website, pro-BNP comments on many other websites and our recent electoral success. Surely it can only be a matter of time before one of the ‘right wing’ national dailies breaks ranks and writes about the BNP as it really is, rather than resorting to the hostile parody we are accustomed to.

    Whilst we probably won’t get open support, what we are entitled to expect is fair, unbiased reporting which credits the BNP with having exposed many of the scandalous issues currently besetting the nation and with having credible policies to deal with the disasters brought about by the Tories and Labour over the past two decades, most of which are catalogued in the Express editorial. It would help too if they were to acknowledge the changes within the BNP which has led to the Party now holding the centre-right political ground abandoned long ago by the Tories, who are now clearly left of centre.

    Editors, be fair to the BNP and watch your circulation rocket!

    I finish with the words which were crying out to be added to today’s Daily Express editorial

    VOTE BNP

    Posted by Kentish Man | March 26, 2008, 5:00 pm
  12. V is for Victory to the BNP - let’s kick these parasitical thieving vermin out . Also should the BNP make clear their intentions when in Government to prosecute these ” people ” if not done by the present Government ?

    Posted by cigpapers | March 26, 2008, 5:00 pm
  13. It might just be justifiable for MPs to receive some financial help with a second home. However, 1. Only where possession of a second home is essential. 2. Help should be restricted to essential basic upkeep. Not new kitchens and television sets etc. 3. When these houses are sold (or passed craftily into ownership by a spouse or family trust) a proportion of any profit made should be repayable. 4. Full details of monies received should be recorded in a register to which the public have automatic access.

    Posted by Ernald | March 26, 2008, 6:37 pm
  14. CONway won’t resign his seat, if he did he will lose even more taxpayers cash by doing so. When voters kick him out next election he will get another hefty handout from the taxpayers as a going away present, not forgetting his golden pension we the mugs provide them all with. Disgusting.

    Posted by jaybee | March 27, 2008, 10:19 am

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