Sharia Law in Britain is Unavoidable
The Archbishop of Canterbury has today said that the adoption of Islamic Sharia law in the UK is “unavoidable” and that it would help maintain social cohesion.
Rowan Williams told BBC Radio 4’s World at One that the UK has to “face up to the fact” that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system. He says that Muslims could choose to have marital disputes or financial matters dealt with in a Sharia court. He says Muslims should not have to choose between “the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty.”
Dr Williams said there was a place for finding a “constructive accommodation” in areas such as marriage — allowing Muslim women to avoid western divorce proceedings. Other religions enjoyed such tolerance of their own laws, he pointed out, but stressed that it could never be allowed to take precedence over an individual’s rights as a citizen. He said it would also require a change in perception of what Sharia involved beyond the “inhumanity” of extreme punishments and attitudes to women seen in some Islamic states.
Dr Williams said: “It seems unavoidable and, as a matter of fact, certain conditions of Sharia are already recognised in our society and under our law, so it is not as if we are bringing in an alien and rival system.
“We already have in this country a number of situations in which the internal law of religious communities is recognised by the law of the land as justifying conscientious objections in certain circumstances.”
He added: “There is a place for finding what would be a constructive accommodation with some aspects of Muslim law as we already do with aspects of other kinds of religious law.
You can contact the Archbishop here, and let him know how you feel about his comments!
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More drip drip drip, when will this civil/world war kick off then? i mean it must be inevitable? islam and modern, un brainwashed countries are so incompatable, surely something shortly will kick it off? afghan is going down the pan as it was forecast. why oh why cant western countries isolate the whole middle east and have nothing to do with islamic anything. (oil of course but we can get round it with the right technology and recyling of oil based products surely?)
if the brains and expertise of western governments left all the mad muslim countries to get on with living the shariah way they would be in the stone age in now time. on the plus side for us we have no worries of rucksacks blowing up on public transport, no wailing minerets, i could go on ..its all positive stuff.
ban shariah and all the crap if the dont like it go live elsewhere…
One of the many tragedies of GB is that people associate Christianity with Williams. Appointed by Bliar, he has done more than anyone to destroy Bible witness in a country once renowned for it. Can it be coincidence that when the Bible was held in high regard our country prospered, and vice-versa?
Oh yes. he makes it sound like such a terribly, terribly, good thing.
A great leap backwards.
SHARIA LAW? NO WAY.
They should make their minds up, either we have Sharia law or our law. That old twat the Archbishop of Canterbury should be made to convert to Islam if this is what he thinks, after all he is legitimising their religion against his own.
The lunatics have taken over the asylum !
This is all part of the ‘Common Purpose’ (Rowans is a graduate of that Marxist ideology factory)drip drip drip towards the islamification of this country.
What next - public stonings and executions in Trafalgar Square?
How about a permant Hand-Chopping Squad based in Oxford Street to deal with shoplifters?
Quote: Thorgeir of Ljosavatn
“It would be disastrous if men should not have one and the same law, all of them, in this land.”
“It will prove true, if we break the law in pieces, that we break the peace in pieces too.”
(I do not think he was considering Sharia Law at the time.)
I had to check my calendar just to make sure it was not 1st April! I truly cannot believe what the Archbishop is saying! Could you imagine what would happen if same islamic cleric said that muslims should embrace Christian values, ha, ha, ha. Go help this country.
The Great Bearded Wonder really has lost it this time. You are more likely to get social cohesion when everyone is subject to the same laws. Not different ones.This sounds like appeasement to me. And we all know what use that was against Germany in the 1930s.
Will no-one rid us of this turbulent priest?
This man is a traitor whose Blair-inspired ramblings reek of New Labour’s political correctness. He should go take a hike out to a country such as Saudi Arabia, or Sudan, that fully practices Shariah Law. I don’t think he would be able to practise his religion.. and certainly not build a church out there..
I would then suggest replacing him with the truly Christian Bishop of Rochester. Oh. or maybe the fella from York.
In this area of Britain there is a Halal slaughterhouse. The animals are, of course, killed without pre-stunning (a practice which is deemed by most of us to be barbaric in an enlightened age). If a regular slaughterman killed in this fashion, they would be breaking the law.
One law for “them” and another law for “the rest of us” is NOT cohesive. It is truly divisive, and will create resentment in those to whom the law already applies.
This is turning out to be a bad dream. The Archbishop of Canterbury has practically given his blessing for the go ahead of this vile practise. The Government will be cockahoop if they have the church’s backing to do what they like here.
Is it any wonder that weekly attendances are dropping weekly with people attending their local church.
Quote:
” …. it is not as if we are bringing in an alien and rival system.”
No, of course not.
Who could think such a thing of this devoted follower of Jesus, the liblabcon-trick and the religion of peace?
We will all live together in a diverse, multicult rainbow paradise.
Wake up! - Time is running out!
He should be shot for treason.
I thought our war heroes fought many battles to avoid foreign influence? Seems like he spat on what they died for.
It’s no wonder people are deserting the Anglican congregation in droves with this sort of gutless stance being taken by the head of the established Church. The passion and fervour of reformed faith preachers has been replaced by tea drinking, biscuit nibbling,country cottage dwelling bumbling vicars who approach every controversial subject with mouse-like timidity.
Instead of promoting the laws of Islam or any other faith the AB of C needs to start fighting for a greater Christian influence on OUR legal system. Perhaps then we wouldn’t see laws passed that make it compulsory for people to associate with homosexuals and allow children to be adopted by gay couples. He could also tackle the issue of schools grooming children to believe that homosexuality is a healthy and acceptable norm.
Somebody needs to inform this moron Rowan Williams, who just happens to be living on another planet from the rest of us, that if these muslims don’t wish to conform to our christian way of life and laws, then they can clear off back to whichever mediaeval country they came from and leave us British to get on with our lives in the way that our forefathers fought and died for.
Is this guy for real? To Hell with Political Coddeling!!!
ISLAM IS EVIL!!!
MR ROWAN IS A SELF INDULGENT, CONDESCENDING, POMPOUS TWAT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS EXCUSE FOR A MAN, DOES NOT IN ANY WAY REPRESENT THE VAST MAJORITY OF DECENT LOYAL BRITISH CHRISTIANS.
GO AWAY MR ROWAN AND BORE SOMEBODY ELSE WITH YOUR MEANINGLESS STRUGGLE FOR INTELLECTUAL NOTORIETY.
This man is not ignorant nor stupid. He is very much for real and he is part of the attack being waged upon our society. One of the aims of Common Purpose is to destroy established religion.
Common Purpose are infecting all areas of our society including the church. That means the Archbishop of Cantebury knows exactly what he is saying and doing.
New World Order anyone?
We are in real trouble and the clock is ticking.
This silly Dhimmi Fool should try living in Iran or Saudi Arabia and practice his Christian Faith then he’ll find out what Sharia Law is all about!
He speaks out of total ignorance if he believes Muslims will be happy with a watered down version of Sharia Law dealing with mundane cases such as financial and marital disputes. What a fool!
At first it will be the mundane stuff then Muslims will demand a bit more until we are faced with Sharia in all its glory.
Women, all women (of any faith), will have to be covered up. The air will be full of those calls to prayer (something Oxford is about to experience). We will see “religious” bigots out on the streets of Bradford, Luton etc making sure women are covered up. Gays and other minorities will start to suffer as the bigots demand clubs and venues are closed.
No, Sharia must not be given even the slightest foot hold in the UK.
This fool states: “…Muslims should not have to choose between “the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty”.?
Surely the very many previous groups have done just that and integrated without demanding special laws and special treatment? For example the many Jews, Greeks, Pole, Italians and Indians of Sikh or Hindu faiths that have made homes in the UK. Why does Islam need to be singled out as a “special case” requring “special” laws and treatment?
The fool then remarks that: “face up to the fact that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system”.?! Well Mr. Williams, neither would I “relate” to an Islamic legal system if I chose to live in an Islamic country yet I don’t see these countries willing to introduced Judaeo Christian laws just to suit non Muslims?! The case of Sudan and Teddygate being a prime example.
No, if Muslims CHOOSE to live here they abide by British Law and frankly I couldn’t care less whether they “relate” to it or not. We are not changing it for Islam or anyone else.
May I then suggest that Williams sorts out the problems in his own Church - the Gay Clergy issue being a case in point - and leave our legal system alone. It has served us well for the last 1,000 years and doubtless will continue for at least another 1,000.
When will idiots like the Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams realise it’s lily livered do gooders like him that is killing christianity in Britain while Islam flourishes.
As a preacher of peace, he should be screaming from the hilltops about the evils of Sharia Law. This is a barbaric law that flies in the face of all Christianity stands for. Does he really want to sit by and witness the brutality of public floggings and stonings for women who do not conform to the Islamic way of life ? Does he really want to sit by while the Islamic leaders preach their hatred for westerners and western life styles? Does he really want to sit back and watch as Islamic terrorists are protected by Sharia law as our courts will not be able to touch them when they claim they don’t recognise our legal system ?
Is this man mad ?
As for Sharia law being unavoidable in Britain. Of course it’s unavoidable. We just need to tell the people of the world, if our laws and customs are alien to you - DON’T BLOODY COME HERE…… Dave
He is a stupid mindless DRUID. No wonder people do not bother to go to church anymore. The way he talks I think he is gay also.
the man is a disgrace to britain and what britain stands for.
i hope he’ll cast the first stone when that becomes legal. it’d probably be better if he was the recipient.
his dangerous talk can only help as a catalyst to get the fighting started.
long live britain
Get rid of him - he’s a complete waste of space!!
I am so glad that an influential figure like the Archbishop has made this statement. If there is anybody out there who still doubts the threat that Islam poses to this country, Williams’ statement about the adoption of Sharia law being “unavoidable” ought to awaken them from cloud-cuckoo land.
The closer I look at his picture it now appears to me that there is little difference between him and those other beaded buffoons that infest our country.
I know they have planted Muslims in every part of our country, but this is surely their greatest coup to have got one in at the top of the Church of England!
Not that I beleive any of their fairy tales either Christian or Muslim, but this is a Christian country governed by Christian values. If Muslims don’t like it then why come here? Why don’t they go back to whichever hell hole they came from and take this eclesiastical idiot with them. We don’t want him!
Talk about the tail wagging the dog, 3% of the population (non indiginous I might add) want to tell the other 97% what laws their country is governed by? Obviously, we know they don’t understand democracy, but that twat Williams should know better.
It is about time the fantasy of religions were consigned to the dustbin of history where they belong, so that sane people can go about their business without having to put up with all of this nonsense. As we all know more people have died because of religion than anything else and the beginning of the scientific 21st century is a good time to do it, then idiots like Williams would have to get a proper job.
It can be argued that religions were useful in the past to instill moral values, but I’m not so sure when I read the Old Testament, let alone the Koran.
Sharia Law in Britain? No way you appeasing idiot. You are a traitor to your employer (The Church) and a traitor to your country.
This man should be sacked and replaced with someone of true Christian faith, a sense of Britishness and most importantly, a spine. Has he actually accepted that Islam will conquer our legal system? As a Christian, you would think he would stand up for his faith and promote it above all others instead of lying down and giving in. How can the C of E and the government be so out of touch with public opinion? I have just read the comments on the Daily Mail website and every one of them says the same thing. The hard working white Englishman needs a voice, every ethnic minority (majority in W Yorkshire) seems to have one.
I am trying in vain to find words for this treachery,but I can’t.Excuse me while I puke…………..
It made my blood boil when I read this. Mr Williams is an overpaid, Common Purpose serving dhimmi and it disgusts me to think that the traditional Christian foundations that this country has been build on are quickly being eroded by Marxist lunatics such as this bearded buffoon.
I know it is often repeated but the message is simple: a BNP government MUST be elected and gain power if we are ever to end this lunacy. Otherwise, I feel that a Civil War is eventually inevitable as the anger of native Britons can only be suppressed for so long. As soon as it bubbles over, these pandering Dhimmis and indeed those who want to impose Sharia law need to be prepared for what will occur.
It beggars belief that someone in his position would spout this rubbish. How can a christian country (only just) be partly governed by Sharia law? This would give muslims virtual immunity from western laws and values that they clearly already despise so much. We have enough problems with Islam in this country of OURS without them having free reign to do as they please.
Shariah Law and the “Religious Police”.. don’t you just love it? For anyone who has doubts about how “vicious and wicked” Islam really is and who would welcome “some” Shariah law in Great Britain..think “Thin end of the Wedge”. Halal today, stoning tomorrow:
Religious police in Saudi Arabia arrest mother for sitting with a man:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3321637.ece
A useful insight into life for women under Wahaabism… I quote:
“If I want to make a difference I have to stick around. If I leave they win.” This woman is obviously extremely naïve if she thinks she can buck THIS system!
This idiot has absolutely no idea what he is talking about. I have lived in Dubai and Bahrain and worked in Saudi Arabia. I must admit that the people I met in especially Dubai and to a certain extent Bahrain were very friendly and polite. The problem is with a certain amount of muslims in this country who have a chip on their shoulder and think the grass is greener elsewhere. let me tell you, it’s not. In Saudi Arabia I was invited to attend the public floggings and amputations at a football stadium, (I obviously declined the offer). Whilst Dubai and Bahrain are quite westernised, Saudi Arabia is a law unto itself and quite scary. Whilst over there one of my friends was hit in his car, (not his fault at all) but was blamed for the accident as the philosophy was, “if you hadn’t of been in our country, it wouldn’t have happened”! To try and introduce any part of Sharia law into this country is simply not on as one part would lead to another and so it would spread. One thing is certain and that is that I would change religeons to suit my needs if I ever got in trouble with the law! You have to watch this dodgy government as they use large scare tactics like this headline which amount to nothing but sneak in little bits of law when no ones looking.
At Christmas, which is also under threat from these bearded/veiled intruders into our society, I would have suggested letting this sad sack of a clergyman to have his seasonal rant and ignore him - as every sane Christian will anyway. However, this is not Christmas and he has crossed a line today that it will be difficult for him to recover from.
He has hardly any credibility in any case and Downing Street have been unusually swift in slapping him down, hastily supported of course, by the other two making up the Parliamentary cabal.
He is nothing but an inept, joke like figure and he is to be pitied rather than despised. Rory Bremner may even be moved to distance himself, from such a tragic figure of fun that he loves to ridicule. It is almost akin to taking the *iss out of the mentally challenged - not very funny at all when you stop laughing and think about it.
There may be a ray of hope for poor Rowan if he tries reinventing himself, starting with shaving off that ridiculous beard and having a decent haircut. Or is it his prize asset as he morphs from an Archbishop into an Imam?
This excuse for a archbishop is giving me a warm feeling, he is in my opinion giving our party the best recruitment insentive possible.
We couldn,t afford to pay for this level of publicity he has given us for free.
By the way lickyalips you are lucky to get a posting on the BBC forum they never publish my little articles.
I may be in the minority, but I think we should let them have their ‘Sharia’ law, so long as it only applies to Muslims.
Firstly, think of the entertainment value. What better way to fill the Half Time break in a Premiership Match than with the good, old fashioned stonning of a Muslim adulterer. Obviously, they’d have to clear up quickly afterwards. ‘SKY’ wouldn’t want the start to the second half delayed.
Secondly, consider the advantages if they start executing each other. More housing, less of a drain on The NHS and fewer claims on the Benefits System. On the downside, it may be more difficult to find an illegal mini cab.
However, the chopping off of hands, feet and limbs etc must be outlawed from the off. Unless they are then left to bleed to death. The NHS can’t be expected to provide treatment and artificial ‘Hooks’ to these criminals.
Finally, If all those ugly mares have to cover their faces, we won’t have to look at them. Trips to the Post Office, corner shop etc will overnight become a more pleasurable experience.
So I say, give them Carte Blanche to do what they like to each other.
“Certain conditions of Sharia law are already accepted in our society”.Really?
So if I stone my wife to death for having an affair can I choose to be tried by a Sharia court? Because I will get away with it in their court but not ours.
This is absolute bloody madness.
How on earth did this man become leader of the Church of England?
The reverend in my local Chapel has far more savvy than this supposed Archbishop.
Quite how he thinks that having separate and distinct laws for different members or groups in the community will do anything for social cohesion. Is beyond me.
Rowan williams ,more like Rowan Atkinson ,this man is a fool,he believes that this evil devil religeon should cut off peoples hands and stone women to death ,make children into bombers ,Hes a man of god then ,i dont think so. The only good thing i can think of if they ever got thier own laws is that they can force them onto all these young muslims that were born here and hate us so much ,the ones that think the countries their mothers and fathers come from is so wonderful,they can get a taste of it in this country,I wonder what the muslim punishment for beating the hell out of innocent people with a base ball bats is ,or nearly killing a young boy with a hammer or actually killing someone all who are white by the way, Let me guess oh it dosen’t cover that i bet.
Well in the words of my idol catherine tate ,you can take your mosques ,take your loud speakers, take your muslim preachers ,take your sharia laws shove them up your a–s and p–s of back where you came from.
This outrageous proposal eptiomises how mad this country is now, and the religious establishment are a prime example of that. A few years ago such a remark would have been unthinkable. The Archbishop of Canterbury has revealed the true god he worships - the god of political correctness.
And the row has exploded. Politicians are distancing themselves. RW has gone and lit the blue touch paper.
Look folks - it is absolutely impossible to communicate with Muzlimz on anything like an objective level. They believe they are right and that anyone who disagrees with them is exhibiting some sort of irrational behaviour - viz Islamaphobia.
Williams is as much as admitting this. The establishment is too cowardly to say ‘NO!’ to Muzlimz because they know Muzlimz ignore anything they don’t agree with. A firm ‘NO!’ to Sharia law will be ignored but it will mean that the authorities have some responsibility to prevent it - which is the last thing they want because they know it will bring them into conflict with the Muzlim population, and they don’t know where that might lead. Hence they give Muzlimz their own way and leave confronting them to somebody else at some time in the future.
Oh, the joys of Multiculturalism.
In the space of a few days:
Government legitimises polygamy via Social Security.
Church of England leader suggests ‘may be a case’ for Sharia ‘law’.
Interview with ‘England football manager’… complete with subtitles!
As Britain is now the laughing stock of the world, can we expect to see an hilarious new sitcom, or perhaps a new version of ‘Mars Attacks’?
Quack, quack, quack.
I’m an atheist B.N.P.member .Secular is best.
Christendom destroyed the original belief systems.
I come from a Christian family background .Christianity has done much good, but also much ill toward our nation.
To come to a quick conclusion religion of any kind , has very limited value in a modern society.
“Sand ” religions just cause dischord .Doesn’t the New testement say ,”turn the other cheek” too?.
Islam says,”Jihad”?
What do we say?
Williams needs to “face up to the fact” that not all Brits are as weak and pathetic as he and his labour mates/cronies and that we simply will not put up with much more of this spouted crap.
TRAITOR TO CHRISTIANITY AND BRITAIN!!!
What a grovelling, sycophantic, low down worm - so low he can walk under the crack of a door wearing a top-hat, or walk under the belly of a snake.
Christianity is about tolerance, NOT about turning your faith, your beliefs on their head and selling short all that this country is about. If this twisted despot wants to make a pact with the devil let him do it on his own in one of the Devil-Pig worshiping countries far from here; (before he does it might be an excellent idea to watch the film ‘300′ and see what real men used to do in the face of muslim enemies)!!!
We thought it was
“When in Rome do as the Romans do”?
The only solution!
VOTE BRITISH NATIONAL PARTY
You know it makes sense.
MY Instructions from the other half.
Where is my pall going to live when all the bell towers have been converted?
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_JeJhGzkAX0
What aspects of Sharia law does this Devil think should be implemented?. Beheading? Stoning to death? Cutting off of hands? Beating your wife? etc.etc.etc!!!
It has been mentioned here previously that Muslims support Islam over The State and State Laws.
Do not people, particularly our idiot politicians, realise that that is why in Islamic States like Saudi Arabia and Iran, they combine the Islamic religion with the State Politics with no options? That way Muslims can support the State and Islam without conflict. That is also why these muslims say they want an Islamist in Downing Street. We,The British do not say we must have a Christian Prime Minister.We have had Jews,Catholics,Protestant etc.in office.
I only hope this latest utterance by The Archbishop of Canterbury may be enough to bring people to their senses, realise what is happening here, and be prepared to do something about it!!!!!
can you imagine a typical sunday afternoon in the future? all the family sit down to a good hearty halal sunday dinner-then its off to the park with the kids! not to feed the ducks but to watch some poor wretch being stoned to death for talking to a stranger outside of her family! then the kids pipe up “ooo i smell a barbecue” can i have a burger? no no kids thats a funeral pyre its a muslim roasting not a burger! the mind boggles!
By all means let them for now live in their ghettos under sharia law, as long as they do not try and impose it on civilised people. At least this will mean they are not trying to integrate, thus making it easier for them to move on, or be moved on when the time comes.
I think ArthurDaley has a valid point and I think I have said it myself - let them get on with it but just keep it well away from me. However, on reflection, I don’t think I want this anymore than I want them.
Why accept it at all, when our unswerving aim is to rid this Country of the scourge of Islam? It might even - and probably would - encourage them to stay longer than they othewise would! The unintended consequences of misguided and expedient decisions. Do not allow it under any circumstances and continually remind these unwelcome guests of their unwelcome status!
ps Abu Hamza to be kicked across the Pond! One down, a couple of million (2,000,000) to go.
Stupid man.
Where’s Henry II when you need him?
“Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?”.
I believe we could safely say though that unlike Thomas A’Beckett there would never, ever be a shrine to Saint Rowan Williamson of less than blessed memory.
Have a look at the reactions from the politicals this has produced. Even the lib-dems leader has condemned Williams. I think he has finally pushed his common purpose agenda to far this time.
He is done for as a credible voice, no-one will take this mans words seriously again.
About time.
This man is a dangerous lunatic. He should be sacked by his church as soon as possible. What he is proposing is treason against the rule of law in the UK, and a heresy against his own faith.
Even more dangerous is the festering pestilence of Islam itself, burrowing its way into our culture and our freedoms.
Every decent Englishman should look long and hard at why it is essential that they vote for the BNP. Only the BNP has the guts to deal with the problems which will, if left unchecked destroy our country. We must end immigration immediately, and then seek to deport all illegal immigrants back to where they came from. We must also outlaw the practice of Islam, and deport any who refuse to live by our laws. There are plenty of Islamic countries that they can be sent to, who will be more than happy to serve them up with a portion of sharia. Decent Englishmen have died to give us our freedom, we must stop this madness before any more English blood is spilt on English soil protecting OUR freedoms from a barbaric medieval death cult called Islam. Enoch must be turning in his grave at what this bishop has said, along with Churchill and all the other decent people who have fought for England.
End this madness now, Out with the lot of them!!
Surely, by now, we have all had enough of this bearded buffoon’s pronouncements.He has managed to split the church asunder with his dubious views on homosexuality. Now this. That old saying “It is the fool of the family who goes into the church”, has never been more apt.
Yea this is a good idea(NOT), if we want 0 human rights
He’s on BBC24 now. And talking a load of pompous, self-important, absurd academic bollocks. He appears to have no connection with reality.
They can have as much sharia law as they want
When they go to live in saudi arabia
If its so important to them - why dont they go home ?
How hard can it be ?
When Communism was spreading its tentacles across the western world
(the people behind Communism can be identified at another time)they had a phrase for naive halfwits who
were in positions of authority but could not see the bigger picture,they called them “useful idiots”. Never has a phrase been more apt than in the case of Rowan Williams.These “useful idiots” did what they were told to advance the cause of Communism without ever seeing that they were being used.
Substitute the word Communism for Islam or Common Purpose and his words become more understandable although still inexcusable.
An even worse scenario is that Williams is actually aware of what he is doing in which case every church going Christian who loves this country should boycott every
Church of England service until this man is replaced by someone who actually possesses a backbone and is prepared to stand up for the indigenous people of this country.
Apologies for getting over excited about Hook! I fell for the spin - never let your guard down. The ticker ‘Abu Hamza to be extradited’ actually means: 2 weeks to lodge an appeal (which his highly paid, legal aided, parasite lawyers have of course said they will) and most likely several more months before a final decision is made! Hidden agenda - always look for one!?
Perhaps our mainstream cabal would like nothing more, than for this evil sub human to be extradited a week or so before a General Election. That might be worth thousands upon thousands of votes that would otherwise go to the BNP! Britain is finally rid of this thing but BNP pay the price - having done all the hard work?
Politics is definitely a dirty business and not for the faint hearted, or for those who are easily disillusioned. Lets hope I’m getting overexcited again.
This is why we need a political party like the BNP to look after our interests. No other political party will stand up for us.
This statement from the leader of the Church of England proves my point.
Vote BNP.
I live in canterbury and I feel like someone should let this man know what a mistake he’s making. Maybe a st Georges cross with Judas written on it. Surely he knows who judas is.
Who will rid us of this gullible priest? And the rest of his ilk?
Rowan Williams will go down in history as one of the major influences in the UK’s current race to the bottom. America has a far better multicultural attitude….your an American first and whatever your religion second.
First it’ll be the muslims wanting special laws, then the Buddhists, then the Sikhs etc etc etc……if that’s the case then the Jedi’s should also have their religious beliefs incorporated into law…..including the ancient Jedi tradition of not paying tax!
Thanks to Liberal apologists like the lunatic Williams and the idiotic McBroon the unelected I can see this country going the same way as all multicultural countries…….civil war
Rather than just post our complaints on here, we should all be out campaining so that if there is another election the BNP will see massive growth in it’s elected base and it’s true political inffluence
ALL AMIRABLE COMMENTS. BUT WHEN… OH WHEN ARE WE GOING TO START DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT. WE NEED TO CALL FOR WILLIAMS RESIGNATION. WE NEED TO LOBBY EVERY INCH OF ENGLAND, WE NEED TO START FIGHTING FOR OUR FREEDOM AND VERY CULTURAL EXISTENCE. WAKE UP ENGLAND BECAUSE THE YOLK OF ISLAM IS SLOWLY BUT SURELY BEING SLIPPED OVER THE HEAD OF ENGLAND.
It’s interesting to see from the survey at the top of this news item that there are 30-odd muslims who have registered a vote in favour of sharia.
Here is a message for you — It’s time to “Quit Britain”.
You may think you have allies in high places, debauched and degenerate men and women whom we know you despise as much as we do. But these people will soon be swept from office, and may indeed be on trial for their miserable lives.
“We The People” will do it.
We will defend our country.
The hint (at present) to you to leave applies equally to the criminal riff-raff that has infested our land, and brought us drugs and other wickedness unknown to our fathers.
I do just wonder if the Archbishop of Canterbury is as daft as he sounds? The backlash was clearly predictable. This will hopefully leave this loser government having to clean up their act and make sure that all these Barbarians following Sharia law are deported. (Prisons are full) Common Mr Brown, this is your que to get Sharia law “outlawed”
This prat wants stripping of his title! He has betrayed all good Christian people. This idiot has sold out…at what cost, Mr Williams??
To think of all the trouble that Moses went to getting the Christians out of Egypt!!
Sharia law? Fine by me. Just what we want in fact. Let them feel they can show us who they really are. And then let us kick them out of England…along with their traitor apologists…Mr Williams.
I would have been less surprised if the man had said that the Martians had landed.
How close is this country to revolution? It can surely not be long.
“Rowan Williams told BBC Radio 4’s World at One that the UK has to “face up to the fact” that some of its citizens do not relate to the British legal system.”
Absolutely true. Folks like us simply do not recognise New Labour-invented thought crimes legislation or EU human rights legislation for foreign criminals, and so on, ad nauseam.
“He says [add group here] should not have to choose between “the stark alternatives of cultural loyalty or state loyalty”.”
This guy really is talking our language. The State is our enemy now. Us English certainly wish to put our cultural loyalties before loyalties to a State which aims to destroy our culture. Mr Williams has obviously recognised this fact. Who’d have thought that Rowan Williams would subscribe to BNP principles?! Thank you Rowan, you’ve done us proud!
So its one law for them and another for us ??… are they expecting the British people to allow this injustice, over my dead body… Mr Williams the fake Archbishop of Canterbury about time u stood down. YOU are meant to represent the church of ENGLAND!!! you need to remember what that stands for…
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Ed Says: Well said Anters!
Are you sure these comments were indeed made by Rowan Williams and not ROWAN ATKINSON.Sadly Williams appears to be the better Comedian.
He really must be joking if he thinks we Brits will accept this barbarity on our doorsteps.All this does is show ordinary people just how corrupt and out of touch our leading authoratative figures really are.
What a bonus,”FREE PUBLICITY” to substantiate what we in the BNP have been saying for years.
Lets make the most of this and go forward.”ONWARD CHRISTIAN SOLDIERS” sounds appropriate.
Slowly the Nation awakes,our time IS coming.
Looking at these comments. I think the Druid has opened a can of angry worms.
I’ve always thought that the best way to destroy something is to take the p*** out of it. “The Life of Brian” did a lot to destroy Christianity.
I never thought I’d hear myself saying this, but we’ve got to support Christianity against the advancing dark hordes because, in reality, what sounds better to you? The sound of church bells, or the sound of wailing Muslims? We’re talking about the destruction of 2,000 years of religious history here.
Not to mention such places as Avebury and Stonehenge. These sites have a huge cultural significance to us all that outweigh any islamic prayers, because these sites are linked to the ancient gods of Europe. Our gods stem from the beliefs of the Germanic people, and the people that built these ancient sites are our people.
Anyway, is it just me or does Rowan Williams look a bit/ a lot Satanic? :D
It’s not surprising the church is in such decline when it’s leaders make such statements
I reached into my pocket and pulled out a handfull of small change. One side of each coin is marked with its value with each coin differing in size and weight. Yet on the other side, each coin, regardless of size, weight or value is marked in EXACTLY the same way;ELIZABETH II - DG REG - FD and, of course, the date it was struck.
Focus if you will on the letters FD, or FID DEF, or better still the translation DEFENDER OF THE FAITH (which Henry VIII was responsible for).
I do hope that you log on to the BNP site occasionally Your Majesty as we need you to put into practise that which is indelibly marked on your coinage.
P.S. The next garden party should be a perfect opportunity to arrest the majority of your guests. I’m sure the palace guards would appreciate some live fire moving target practice!
Another member of Common Purpose comes “out of the closet”.
Hello, earth calling Rowin Williams, come in please, are you an idiot. If Muslims want sharia law then they can go to an islamic country were im sure they will be a lot happier for we the Indigenous people won’t allow this to happen. The failed social engineering project called Multi-Culturalism and the Liberal idiots who pushed this unwanted idea onto us with out our consent are soley to blame for this. It seems to me that what is happening is this we are being pushed and pushed and in the end if the BNP dont get in to power well i’m sorry for saying this but I fear a civil war is brewing I know some people will call me a scare mongrer but I feel that if we dont act now and see this as what it truly is - a wake up call for all of us, then i fear that this will come to pass…
Rowan William’s comments don’t surprise me in the slightest. I always knew he was a bleeding heart lefty who would let Islamic extremists get the better of him. For many years I have held the stance that no sane patriot should ever support the CofE. Could the BNP please do us a favour and disestablish this house of traitors.
Islam might be the militant religion, but Protestant Christianity is the dry rot of the west. If the native British people rediscovered our Pagan past then the nation would be a much happier place to live.
Until we have a clear cut method to strangle people like Dr Rowan Williams at birth, then I don’t want any more Muslims coming into this country.
You know, there was a time that I could stomach immigration, but the problem is the po-faced bleeding heart liberals who ruin it for all of us.
“It’s interesting to see from the survey at the top of this news item that there are 30-odd muslims who have registered a vote in favour of sharia.”
I’d bet you my bottom fiver that most of the people who clicked on “The sooner the better”, were in fact non-Muslim lefties. But yeah, my sentiments are the same. If you want Sharia law, what are you doing here? There is no end of Islamic states to go to.
I’m ashamed to say, as a Welsh student, that this man, who by saying a few simple words has betrayed everything this country used to stand for, is Welsh.
The only good thing that can be said for this Marxist antichrist goat, is that he is an excellent recruiting sergeant for the BNP. Long may he rein
The BNP should personally thank woolly Liberals such as Rowan Williams, because statements like this will enrage Britons into action.
I agree with the poster PJD…..those Muslims who voted for Sharia Law it is time to quit Britain along with any politicians who continue to peddle their treason…..
Never have I been so angry. Although I am an atheist I still believe in the christian way of life in this country and the western way. This Arch druid should be stripped of his office and bannished to an Islamic backyard.
When will we start to rise up and tell these appeasers of Islame that Islam is not a religion but a political force that uses the relgion as a force to pacify any objection.That is why it gets away with every thing it asks for. This government and the Lib/Cons seem mesmerised in fear of offending even one Moslem. Something must be done PDQ before we end up as many other countries that have been taken over by islam. I preict that(as I have mentioned here before) that this country will be under Islamic rule by 2015 if it carries on as it is doing. With IDIOTS like this Bishop giving the go ahead that this government, will NO DOUBT adopt, it could even be sooner.
Look how Nigeria and many othe states are being taken over. Nigeria acted as we are doing, They allowed a small area of Islamic settlers to have Sharia law, Now over half of the country is dominated by Islam.
We should ban any and every fraction of this law that is being practiced in this country NOW with out exception starting with Polygamous families. They should not be reconised and any found should be deported without compensation. There is NO PLACE for TWO opposing LAWS.
I thought that these people came here to get away from the tyrany of such oppressive laws, especially the women. Not bring them with them.
The BNP must ensure that the Islamic people must give their women equal rights as ours.As soon as you gain power.
What would the clergy say if we wanted 4 wives. Heaven forbid.
Like Austrailia says. If you don’t wan’t to abide by our laws the get OUT, NOW. Idi Amin gave asians afew weeks to clear out of Uganda. Now I believe he was right. even though he should have been hung for his attrosities. We must stop the ROT NOW.
I expect this subject will be a question on Any Quetions to night. should be worth listening to some of the MP,s. selling us down the river.
I hope that many may now see the light and join the BNP or at least vote for it.
All the rejections from the mainstream politicians of what Williams is calling for in regard to Sharia law are phony.
Williams did not just wake up this morning and think this up.
He knew how the mainstream politicians would react, and you can bet they knew he was going to say it.
The next stage from the government will be some sort of ”compromise”, telling the lie that there are certain harmless aspects of Sharia law which do not interfere with the law of the land, and so they have no problem letting Sharia law operate in certain parts of our Country.
Sharia is here in reality already in many of our Cites and Towns occupied by Muslims.
Bit by bit, Sharia law intrudes into the life of this nation.
Labour are happy for this to happen, so as to suck up the large Muslim vote which so many Labour MPs rely on to keep their seat, and of course to maintain a Labour government.
Labour, and the Tories as well, are playing with fire with their appeasement to Islam in this country.
This is the comment I have e-mailed to the Archbishop
“I am absolutely disgusted at the way you have betrayed the Christian Faith.
“You are a DISGRACE to the Church of England, of which I am a Communicant Member.
“Even before the Magna Carta the laws of this great land of ours have ALWAYS been applied to ALL its citizens, irrespective of political and religious beliefs.
“In one foul and un-thought out swoop , you, yes YOU, as the Head of the Anglican Communion have betrayed all that this great country has, and still stands for.
“Archbishop, YOU have encouraged Islamic Fundamentalism that the Muslims have been unable to achieve by their own efforts.
“You should be hanging your head in shame. I look forward to your resignation at the earliest possible moment
MAY OUR LORD HAVE MERCY UPON YOU FOR BETRAYING OUR CHRISTIAN FAITH IN SUCH A BLATANT MANNER!”
Absolutely agree with DFB.
I always thought the Archbishop was barking mad, he has certainly proved it now.
Absolutely unbelievable! Supposed to be head of the Christian church. Is he really so naive?
There are none so blind as them that cannot see!
There is, and can only be one law in this country, and the day that ends is the day this country ends!
Who will rid us of this tubulant priest?
Has the Archbishop lost his marbles - he is talking absolute rubbish and no doubt has probably infuriated and offended the majority of Christians in this country. He is a disgrace, and should learn to keep his mouth closed in future. We don’t want Sharia (barbaric) Law in this country thank you very much - I would rather be buried six feet under! Signed by a devoted Christian.
Are we stark raving mad? How much more of this submission to Islam are we going to take?
WAR is coming to these shores. I posted a message only a few weeks ago regarding plans to change the British constitution in order to accept certain Islamic lawa.
Notice how Brown hasn’t ruled this out. All he says is that laws will reflect the beliefs of British people.
Believe me if they try this there will be a civil war.
Can you add another section to the survey please…
“OVER MY COLD DEAD BODY”
Mine and 20 million others. Rowan, resign, you have lost it, you are a disgrace to your faith!
I repeat, we MUST get them out of our homeland, every last one of them - and they can take this bearded Quisling with them.
After you have resigned, surrender your passport and leave by the nearest exit. Islamic states are that-a-way >>>
The Archbishop of Canterbury is a hell bound heretic and has committed a great sin unto this country, Christianity and to God Almighty. Hear this Mr Bishop – I got some Bible for ya: “Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger (foreigner), as for one of your own country: for I am the Lord you God” (Lev. 34/33) “They (priests) shall therefore keep mine ordinance, lest they bear sin for it and die therefore, if they profane it” (lev. 22/9) The Archbishop just put one fat curse on himself for spouting out that rubbish. He’s no Christian, he’s a Common Purpose serpent – theres only one person that spreads anti-Christic garbage and that’s the anti-Christ. May God pour His wrath out upon him. Scumbag.